X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.212.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4235950 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:40:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.52; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so1291828vws.25 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:39:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oJswAxKnMCo3fm48ON9sOvGAYb/j1eiP49pXy6Oy668=; b=oIONgJ7ixbenwpYUYdvnYREUFDVV3Xky+FlqLb0fjQvHbUoB0cB3ca3/L7XEzgxyg7 t903bsNt0Dq1S1JuEuuwBFqfTauw7clNFiM1sawkPIIRsjZtSPoEY4qzIViGMu6wQIYU 8Bgk6i5+y/kjzYe6cD7t/FW50IyZ5lWa1zzGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=St0bdTSx0qpRsjIzIQlo1mP1I4VB8sYPl9xl1IjibzUmSMMhItIDOoZxxD9x5ykH8n E6PWD9TkdZXtuIiLXw0Idzc3b8ZYKjjb1FjIanb5Nv3t+ErGQpCC0UrnZJ6wOAK29VkX 60ZQGizjg+C3qJSqESlTLfYFUDFlNl4UVeO1w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.126.222 with SMTP id d30mr4110701vcs.198.1272382770614; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.97.212 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:39:30 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a04991151592f739 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68f9f1e0f918e048539b31a --0016e68f9f1e0f918e048539b31a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 5000 is respectable with that prop. I got 5200 static but with a 68 - 71 prop & 2.176 drive. If yours is really a 68 - 88 prop, you can be proud of that 5000. Tracy Crook On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rogers, Bob J. wrote: > Static is about 5,000 engine rpm with a 2.17 redrive. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry > *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 11:04 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > Bob, > > They claim that the prop loses 4=94 of pitch at take off. That would giv= e > you a 68 X 80 during static runup. What static rpm do you get when you d= o > the runup? Do you have the 2.17 or the 2.85 ratio drive? > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Rogers, Bob J. > *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 11:06 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > The prop is a Prince P-tip composite propeller. 68=94 diameter x 84=94 pi= tch. > See http://princeaircraft.com/ > > > > Bob R > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry > *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2010 10:28 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > That really makes an aerodynamic installation! Needlenose! By the way, > what kind of prop is that? > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Rogers, Bob J. > *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2010 3:16 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > Bill, > > > > There is baffling along the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that cau= se > all air entering the nose bowl openings to pass through the radiator and = oil > cooler (instead of around them) before it exits the bottom, where a large > cowl flap regulates the amount of air flowing through the engine > compartment. See the attached pictures. The oil cooler is at the top of > the radiator. Initially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so I > added a second Mazda 13B oil cooler (in series) and placed it right in fr= ont > of the radiator. It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees > cooler than the water. I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F most= of > the time and never more than 200 degrees F. > > > > The plane flies beautifully and is currently being painted. Stay tuned f= or > pictures of the finished project. > > > > > > Bob J. Rogers > > Mustang II > > N62BT > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:58 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > Bob, > > I noticed that you have the radiator mounted at an angle behind the > engine. Tell me again how you are ducted to and from the rad? What abou= t > the oil cooler? Where is it and how is it ducted. What about any coolin= g > issues? How is your plane flying now that it has been a year? > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Rogers, Bob J. > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:16 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > I am the guy in McKinney. See > http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10 and > http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36 > > I am not an A&P. > > > > Bob Rogers > > Mustang II > > N62BT > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bryan Winberry > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:57 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > There=92s also a guy in McKinney. I can=92t remember his name, but you c= ould > find it on the EAA website. > > Bryan > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Bill Eslick > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:54 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area > > > > Al, > > I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason > Hutchison also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here. Feel free to visit > anytime. Neither of us is an A&P. > > Bill Eslick > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: > > Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone > with A&P Certification? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Al > > > --0016e68f9f1e0f918e048539b31a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 5000 is respectable with that prop.=A0=A0 I got 5200 static but with a 68 -= 71 prop & 2.176 drive.

If yours is really a 68 - 88 prop, you c= an be proud of that 5000.

Tracy Crook

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rogers, Bob J. <BRogers@fdic.gov> wrote:
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Static is abou= t 5,000 engine rpm with a 2.17 redrive.

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Monday, April 26, 20= 10 11:04 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Bob,

They claim tha= t the prop loses 4=94 of pitch at take off.=A0 That would give you a 68 X 80 during static runup.=A0 What static rpm do you get when you do the runup?=A0 Do you have the 2.17 o= r the 2.85 ratio drive?

=A0

Bill B<= /font>

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J.
Sent: Monday, April 26, 20= 10 11:06 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

The prop is a = Prince P-tip composite propeller. 68=94 diameter x 84=94 pitch.=A0 See http://princeaircraft.com/<= /p>

=A0

Bob R

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Friday, April 23, 20= 10 10:28 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

That really ma= kes an aerodynamic installation!=A0 Needlenose!=A0 By the way, what kind of prop is that?

=A0

Bill B<= /font>

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J.
Sent: Friday, April 23, 20= 10 3:16 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Bill,

=A0

There is baffl= ing along the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that cause all air entering the nose bowl openings = to pass through the radiator and oil cooler (instead of around them) before it exits the bottom, where a large cowl flap regulates the amount of air flowi= ng through the engine compartment.=A0 See the attached pictures.=A0 The oil cooler is at the top of the radiator.=A0 Initially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so I added a second Mazda 13B oil cooler (in series) a= nd placed it right in front of the radiator.=A0 It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees cooler than the water.=A0 I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F most of the time and never more than 200 degrees F.

=A0

The plane flie= s beautifully and is currently being painted.=A0 Stay tuned for pictures of the finished project= .

=A0

=A0

Bob J. Rogers<= /span>

Mustang II

N62BT

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Wednesday, April 21,= 2010 5:58 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Bob,

I noticed that= you have the radiator mounted at an angle behind the engine.=A0 Tell me again how you are ducted to and from the rad?=A0 What about the oil cooler?=A0 Where is it and how is it ducted.=A0 What about any cooling issues?=A0 How is your plane flying now that it has been a year?

=A0

Bill B<= /font>

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J.
Sent: Wednesday, April 21,= 2010 3:16 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

I am the guy i= n McKinney.=A0 See http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdispl= ay.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36

I am not an A&= amp;P.

=A0

Bob Rogers

Mustang II

N62BT

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberr= y
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2= 010 12:57 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

There=92s also= a guy in McKinney.=A0 I can=92t remember his name, but you could find it on the EAA website.=

Bryan

=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Eslick
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2= 010 1:54 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: R= otary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Al,

I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchis= on also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here.=A0 Feel free to visit anytime.=A0 Neither of us is an A&P.

Bill Eslick

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net= > wrote:

Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone with A&P Certification?=

=A0

Thanks,

=A0

= Al

=A0


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