X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail1.fdic.gov ([167.176.16.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTPS id 4234547 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:07:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=167.176.16.5; envelope-from=brogers@fdic.gov X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAE552.08C64FF6" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:06:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1F44A251F397E444B05E240B8688AB79068C5645@DALEXC100P.PROD.FDIC.GOV> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Thread-Index: AcrjXi2jpLnheZxlTQm3Yq6FxBnk7AB811dw References: From: "Rogers, Bob J." To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Return-Path: BRogers@FDIC.gov X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2010 15:06:24.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[09A3A900:01CAE552] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAE552.08C64FF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The prop is a Prince P-tip composite propeller. 68" diameter x 84" pitch. See http://princeaircraft.com/ =20 Bob R =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:28 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 That really makes an aerodynamic installation! Needlenose! By the way, what kind of prop is that? =20 Bill B =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J. Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 Bill, =20 There is baffling along the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that cause all air entering the nose bowl openings to pass through the radiator and oil cooler (instead of around them) before it exits the bottom, where a large cowl flap regulates the amount of air flowing through the engine compartment. See the attached pictures. The oil cooler is at the top of the radiator. Initially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so I added a second Mazda 13B oil cooler (in series) and placed it right in front of the radiator. It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees cooler than the water. I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F most of the time and never more than 200 degrees F. =20 The plane flies beautifully and is currently being painted. Stay tuned for pictures of the finished project. =20 =20 Bob J. Rogers Mustang II N62BT ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:58 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 Bob, I noticed that you have the radiator mounted at an angle behind the engine. Tell me again how you are ducted to and from the rad? What about the oil cooler? Where is it and how is it ducted. What about any cooling issues? How is your plane flying now that it has been a year? =20 Bill B =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J. Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 I am the guy in McKinney. See http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36 I am not an A&P. =20 Bob Rogers Mustang II N62BT =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:57 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 There's also a guy in McKinney. I can't remember his name, but you could find it on the EAA website. Bryan =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Eslick Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 Al, I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchison also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here. Feel free to visit anytime. Neither of us is an A&P. Bill Eslick On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone with A&P Certification? =20 Thanks, =20 Al =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAE552.08C64FF6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The prop is a Prince P-tip = composite propeller. 68” diameter x 84” = pitch.  See http://princeaircraft.com/

 

Bob R

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Friday, April 23, = 2010 10:28 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

That really makes an aerodynamic installation!  Needlenose!  By the way, what kind of prop is = that?

 

Bill B

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob = J.
Sent: Friday, April 23, = 2010 3:16 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Bill,

 

There is baffling along the sides = of the radiator and oil cooler that cause all air entering the nose bowl = openings to pass through the radiator and oil cooler (instead of around them) before = it exits the bottom, where a large cowl flap regulates the amount of air = flowing through the engine compartment.  See the attached pictures.  = The oil cooler is at the top of the radiator.  Initially, my oil got too = hot at high power settings, so I added a second Mazda 13B oil cooler (in = series) and placed it right in front of the radiator.  It worked, and the oil = temps are now about 10 degrees cooler than the water.  I keep the water = temp at about 180 degrees F most of the time and never more than 200 degrees = F.

 

The plane flies beautifully and is currently being painted.  Stay tuned for pictures of the finished = project.

 

 

Bob J. = Rogers

Mustang = II

N62BT

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Wednesday, April = 21, 2010 5:58 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Bob,

I noticed that you have the = radiator mounted at an angle behind the engine.  Tell me again how you are = ducted to and from the rad?  What about the oil cooler?  Where is it = and how is it ducted.  What about any cooling issues?  How is your = plane flying now that it has been a year?

 

Bill B

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob = J.
Sent: Wednesday, April = 21, 2010 3:16 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

I am the guy in McKinney.  See http:/= /www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa12= 46.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36

I am not an = A&P.

 

Bob = Rogers

Mustang = II

N62BT

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, = 2010 12:57 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

There’s also a guy in = McKinney.  = I can’t remember his name, but you could find it on the EAA = website.

Bryan

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill = Eslick
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, = 2010 1:54 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Al,

I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason = Hutchison also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here.  Feel free to visit = anytime.  Neither of us is an A&P.

Bill Eslick

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> = wrote:

Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone with A&P = Certification?

 <= /o:p>

Thanks,=

 <= /o:p>

Al

 

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