X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4233727 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:45:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=mJ2XtCV6gem0td6545d6o4z3SC3BoM2bxxOQ2/EEFjA= c=1 sm=0 a=djzC_XV6bQYA:10 a=Er6hwA6a1l4K/FyzC6NN7w==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=QdXCYpuVAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=ekHE3smAAAAA:20 a=UretUmmEAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Hl1Gy0H5AAAA:8 a=YWISOAoqAAAA:8 a=-PwXn9_k6-qS8FTlrs0A:9 a=_NSPFMyavjuHt9DXMDIA:7 a=EtTJVz3dKCH1wRcrY-llcf7zvZMA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1vhyWl4Y8LcA:10 a=VvPTdWEW8HYA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=op-BMJlBjm368CaW7lEA:9 a=g3Z_wt7dSpBpvi96ohAA:7 a=MqwvAdEdS5zhOsK58Pg8xK8I23cA:4 a=Er6hwA6a1l4K/FyzC6NN7w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.181.123.159 Received: from [75.181.123.159] ([75.181.123.159:2022] helo=computername) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 4F/DF-22328-69F74DB4; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:44:54 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" Message-ID: <4F.DF.22328.69F74DB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Carb - injector : [FlyRotary] Re: getting lost.... Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:13:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CAE481.86401060" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcrklC8ZaFgHMfjuTlKC976qwkLAbAADSNzw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CAE481.86401060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not a condemnation of Carburetors =E2=80=93 if set up and adjust = correctly, they work just fine. However, I recently had a friend = survive an engine out crash =E2=80=93 due to rotary engine stoppage. He = was not using a true carburetor but an Ellison Throttle body. He had = problems getting the device to deliver the desired fuel =E2=80=93 it = appears that the model he was using did not have sufficient dynamic = range =E2=80=93 in that when idle was adjusted good, it was too lean on = the top end, when adjust for good fuel delivery on the top end, idle was = too rich. Whether truly a limitation of the model he was using or his = limited understanding is uncertain. =20 My point is do not choose either a Carb or fuel injection because you = think one is inherently more reliable than the other. Like everything = else - either can and do fail probably more a result of the user not = fully understanding his choice rather than any inherent limitation of = the method of fuel deliver chosen. =20 It comes down to what you feel comfortable with and are willing to = learn (if you do not already know) and understand the approach you are = using. Failure to truly understand which ever approach you choose = =E2=80=93 can result in truly undesirable side effects. =20 Ed =20 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com = http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ = http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm = =20 _____ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:26 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: getting lost.... =20 The only cars I see broken down on the side of the road nowadays seems = to be the ones out of gas. When was the last time one of your modern = cars let you down? =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: George Lendich To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sat, Apr 24, 2010 10:25 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: getting lost.... It frightens me as well Kevin. George ( down under) I will admit to being quite naive, but my decision to use the = hard-to-adjust Weber carb doesn't seem so impossible when I see so many = postings like this. perhaps phase II I will have fuel injection. = besides, I have Lynn to help me! =E2=98=BA =20 =20 KevinLane Carpentry www.KevinLaneCarpentry.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CAE481.86401060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not a condemnation of Carburetors = =E2=80=93 if set up and adjust correctly, they work just fine.=C2=A0 However, I recently = had a friend survive an engine out crash =E2=80=93 due to rotary engine stoppage. He = was not using a true carburetor but an Ellison Throttle body.=C2=A0 He had problems = getting the device to deliver the desired fuel =E2=80=93 it appears that the model = he was using did not have sufficient dynamic range =E2=80=93 in that when idle was = adjusted good, it was too lean on the top end, when adjust for good fuel delivery on the top = end, idle was too rich.=C2=A0 Whether truly a limitation of the model he was = using or his limited understanding is uncertain.

 

My point is do not choose either a = Carb or fuel injection because you think one is inherently more reliable than = the other.=C2=A0 Like everything else - either can and do fail probably more = a result of the user not fully understanding his choice rather than any inherent = limitation of the method of fuel deliver chosen.

 

=C2=A0It comes down to what you = feel comfortable with and are willing to learn (if you do not already know) = and understand the approach you are using.=C2=A0 Failure to truly understand = which ever approach you choose =E2=80=93 can result in truly undesirable side = effects.

 

Ed

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 25, = 2010 12:26 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = getting lost....

 

The only cars I see broken down on = the side of the road nowadays seems to be the ones out of gas. When was the = last time one of your modern cars let you down?

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au>
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, Apr 24, 2010 10:25 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: getting lost....

 It frightens me as well = Kevin.

George ( down = under)

I = will admit to being quite naive, but my decision to use the hard-to-adjust Weber = carb doesn't seem so impossible when I see so many postings like this.  = perhaps phase II I will have fuel injection.  besides, I have Lynn to help me! =E2=98=BA

 

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www.KevinLaneCarpentry.com

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