X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f204.google.com ([209.85.210.204] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4181097 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:19:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.204; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so708084yxe.25 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:18:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VBBQ/f21kDhlmiiPSlqLVPRFkkv1l1WLkz0hcUiBhio=; b=uAepmzfAW9FVpv6g8Lz+Sj5p/yXhd53izPM6ndPPPwGbXSQsnOlJ/eWNzR93tKLQgm I04Sawwz4yqHohWUCWYewUQT4j9VvI6R3XSz9pfhdE3/1eFjErpjQwCVkRmUrlk79QCF bIOd0eYFzsvsE5++g2dAHAaXPl3Yx6ODAXnOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w8WlSLQP0gQgKpd2nlZL4I4aXfLK1w8AIkT6bWoixgTGru/TpaQ7OSjQOEG+Q9iSWx 6Gp5PsSR32pKjDxSYhJwN3Tt5ETUEOFu1eah3wpMSbJfJe1nc1YJKTHNVizBsBRY8xWQ GcE0ZkISzVihlQGzz4qmKPHKndidMwmZHKsE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.185.94 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:18:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:18:30 -0500 Received: by 10.101.52.10 with SMTP id e10mr5165353ank.151.1269735510341; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c1003271718u4a78d8fam3ab573cda7dd87f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Adaptor plate rivets - Al' 20B From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed73520d7ae50482d1567d --001636ed73520d7ae50482d1567d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, its too late for any of that, Al. The psru is back on the engine now= . Mark S. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Al Gietzen wrote: > > > Good report Al. It is interesting that there are streaks from only the > back side. Is it possible that you have cleaned the front side but due t= o > accessibility, didn't clean the back side? > > No; never did any cleaning of the plate. > > > > I received my close tolerance bolts and swapped out the AN-6A bolts. The > close tolerance bolts were definitely snugger in the holes, but all could= be > installed by hand without needing to be tapped or driven in with a hammer= . > > That=92s true; certainly not a press fit =96 but I don=92t think it matte= rs. > With the 20 bolts torqued to about 20 in-lbs =96 beyond the torque needed= to > turn the lock nuts =96 (I think that=92s about the right number for these= bolts; > I=92d have to double check) the clamping force between the flange and the > plate is so high as to eliminate much in the way of shear forces on the > bolts. If you=92re concerned, a thin film of JB weld on the bolts before > putting them in would eliminate any clearance =96 *and* make it impossibl= e > to ever remove them. > > > > Al > > > --001636ed73520d7ae50482d1567d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, its too late for any of that, Al. =A0The psru is back on the engine n= ow. =A0 =A0

Mark S.

On= Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:

=A0

Good report Al. =A0It is = interesting that there are streaks from only the back side. =A0Is it possible that you have cleaned th= e front side but due to accessibility, didn't clean the back side?

No; never did = any cleaning of the plate.

=A0

I received my close toler= ance bolts and swapped out the AN-6A bolts. =A0The close tolerance bolts were definitely snugger in th= e holes, but all could be installed by hand without needing to be tapped or driven in with a hammer.

That=92s true;= certainly not a press fit =96 but I don=92t think it matters.=A0 With the 20 bolts torqued to about 20 in-lbs =96 beyond the torque needed to turn the lock nuts =96 (I think that=92s about the right number for these bolts; I=92d have to double check) the clamping force between the flange and the plate is so hig= h as to eliminate much in the way of shear forces on the bolts.=A0 If you=92re concerned, a thin film of JB weld on the bolts before putting them in would eliminate any clearance =96 and<= /b> make it impossible to ever remove them.

=A0

Al

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