X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from lrcmmta09-srv.windstream.net ([166.102.165.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4165483 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:36:26 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.102.165.81; envelope-from=montyr2157@windstream.net Return-Path: X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8Pjgba2B17lXCbAvAEOaTHcMh+A5DBMNI/WKx+9UlQQ= c=1 sm=0 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=B6kXxGvwI9UFoGr_R4oA:9 a=0ZQsI4OykHjPIWzYG5gA:7 a=jcDYRfyFeb1DmT49Kixr_GCUZT8A:4 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7jn3DQSX_e8HwyKBzKMA:9 a=MpYBdE1baI_Bjx87CvAA:7 a=8xwVFipv8EYn1lcZ4AeztD54Z0UA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=gw/RmPfPwX8pTdloCq5MFA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: lrcmmta09 smtp.user=montyr2157; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [98.20.130.132] ([98.20.130.132:60348] helo=newbox) by lrcmmta09 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTPA id 20/C4-28148-68C2D9B4; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:35:50 -0500 Message-ID: <42AC570335EE41B1AB2503CCEABD7637@newbox> From: "MONTY ROBERTS" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: Off Field Landing Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:35:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D1_01CAC37B.33A697B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01CAC37B.33A697B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, Just watched the interview. Great job again. Sorry to hear about your = friend. I lost a very good friend and my first flight instructor many = years ago. He was murdered at an ATM for $20. I would have much = preferred he died in an airplane. I know that doesn't help much but it's = all I've got.=20 I hope you are not going to quit flying. You have shown multiple times = that you are a very capable stick. If you love it keep doing it. I'm = sure everybody will understand if you decide to hang it up for a while = though.=20 I think some other people need call signs too. Ed Anderson......call sign "cave man" as he is one of the original "hairy chested heroes" from which we have = all evolved. Tracy Crook.....call sign "Otter" Come on folks lets think of some more. (call signs should be reserved = for those actually flying a rotary powered airplane and related to = something they have done good bad or ugly, and should be regarded as an = honor) Monty=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Leonard=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:55 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Off Field Landing Ok, sounds like I have some fessing up to do... I took my mom up for a flight on her birthday and we went to overfly = the area we are going to be doing a memorial pass today. I was entering = a user waypoint in my hand held GPS and my hand must have accidentally = hit the 'cold start' switch. That switch doubles the injector duration = and is used for starting in extremely cold temperatures. But it was too = much fuel for the engine to keep me aloft (just an occasional sputter). = I was only at about 1100 AGL at the time so my emergency procedures only = got as far as: turn toward airport, switch fuel tank, aux fuel pump, = verify fuel pressure, primary switches turned on... shit, time to find a = place to land this thing... call mayday, choose best spot, fly under = traffic signal and onto road. Mom was cool and collected the whole time. We were very lucky to find = a gap in traffic, the cars were waiting for the light I flew under. Also = really glad to have a plane as nimble as an RV. I don't think I could = have done it in a Bonanza. (course a Bonanza doesn't have a 'cold start = switch' either) It was not until after all the commotion on my drive back to OKB that = I finally had a few minutes to think about what could have been the = cause... then I really felt stupid. If only my emergency procedures = went one more step and I would have tried tweaking the mixture I could = have saved myself a lot of embarrassment.. But when it is time to = fly/land the plane, that is what you have to do.=20 Sure enough, upon return to the plane I discovered the cold start = switch flipped. I checked out everything else, ran fine. Later in the = afternoon I flew it home to OKB from Palomar. I am so very grateful = that extreme embarrassment is all I suffer. Thanks for all the support = from the GA community. --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01CAC37B.33A697B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
 
Just watched the interview. Great job = again. Sorry=20 to hear about your friend. I lost a very good friend and my first flight = instructor many years ago. He was murdered at an ATM for $20. I would = have much=20 preferred he died in an airplane. I know that doesn't help much but it's = all=20 I've got.
 
I hope you are not going to quit = flying. You have=20 shown multiple times that you are a very capable stick. If you love it = keep=20 doing it. I'm sure everybody will understand if you decide to = hang it=20 up for a while though.
 
I think some other people need call = signs=20 too.
 
Ed Anderson......call sign "cave=20 man"
as he is one of the original = "hairy chested=20 heroes" from which we have all evolved.
 
Tracy Crook.....call sign = "Otter"
 
Come on folks lets think of some more. = (call signs=20 should be reserved for those actually flying a rotary powered airplane = and=20 related to something they have done good bad or ugly, and should be = regarded as=20 an honor)
 
Monty 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Leonard
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 = 9:55=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = [SoCAL-RVlist]=20 Re: Off Field Landing

Ok, sounds like I have some fessing up to do...
 
I took my mom up for a flight on her birthday and we went to = overfly the=20 area we are going to be doing a memorial pass today.  I was = entering=20 a user waypoint in my hand held GPS and my hand must have accidentally = hit the=20 'cold start' switch.  That switch doubles the injector duration = and is=20 used for starting in extremely cold temperatures.  But it was too = much=20 fuel for the engine to keep me aloft (just an occasional = sputter).  I was=20 only at about 1100 AGL at the time so my emergency procedures only got = as far=20 as: turn toward airport, switch fuel tank, aux fuel pump, = verify=20 fuel pressure, primary switches turned on... shit, time to find a = place to=20 land this thing... call mayday, choose best spot, fly under = traffic=20 signal and onto road.
 
Mom was cool and collected the whole time.  We were very = lucky to=20 find a gap in traffic, the cars were waiting for the light I flew = under. Also really glad to have a plane as nimble as an = RV.  I=20 don't think I could have done it in a Bonanza. (course a Bonanza = doesn't have=20 a 'cold start switch' either)
 
It was not until after all the commotion on my drive back to = OKB=20 that I finally had a few minutes to think about what could have been = the=20 cause...  then I really felt stupid.  If only my emergency=20 procedures went one more step and I would have tried tweaking the = mixture I=20 could have saved myself a lot of embarrassment..  But when it is = time to=20 fly/land the plane, that is what you have to do. 
 
Sure enough, upon return to the plane I discovered the cold start = switch=20 flipped.  I checked out everything else, ran fine.  Later in = the=20 afternoon I flew it home to OKB from Palomar.  I am so very = grateful that=20 extreme embarrassment is all I suffer.  Thanks for all the = support from=20 the GA community.
 
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net
 
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