X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from lrcmmta07-srv.windstream.net ([166.102.165.79] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4165472 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:37:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.102.165.79; envelope-from=montyr2157@windstream.net Return-Path: X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vrIkE0RmpicZ3/VHCfLhw2VJwzg928tmZDFyNrbZnNw= c=1 sm=0 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=tr1789t2FIS6kf4ipCUA:9 a=oKFqKmsAsbC7ojLe6iD96dDNNCEA:4 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=C6FBnuhq_ObRWP_8X8oA:9 a=h4Kbyr6kid2FUcBh6pAA:7 a=zL3dz6YdxjLyBXQsDsk1tMIQjBEA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AJF/2IVAmIHhE4UUT4XCQw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: lrcmmta07 smtp.user=montyr2157; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [98.20.177.61] ([98.20.177.61:60076] helo=newbox) by lrcmmta07 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTPA id 32/BF-20069-9CE1D9B4; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:37:13 -0500 Message-ID: <48D7D29C6DC745CF8A85AC3D29A2C0F1@newbox> From: "MONTY ROBERTS" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: Off Field Landing Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:36:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01CAC373.0377AAF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CAC373.0377AAF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Way to go David!! Fly the plane was the correct thing to do. There is no embarrassment if = confessing what happened. We are all now aware of another problem that = can occur. I'm sure everybody will add check cold start to their engine = out procedure.=20 However, since you have shown such prowess and demonstrated the ability = to execute emergency landings in dangerous situations on the interstate = with =E9lan on multiple occasions I think a new call sign may be in = order.=20 Perhaps Doc "Freeway" Leonard=20 or since you are an anesthesiologist.....Doc "Highway" Leonard. I'll leave the group to decide ;-) Great job keeping mom safe. Monty =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Leonard=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:55 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Off Field Landing Ok, sounds like I have some fessing up to do... I took my mom up for a flight on her birthday and we went to overfly = the area we are going to be doing a memorial pass today. I was entering = a user waypoint in my hand held GPS and my hand must have accidentally = hit the 'cold start' switch. That switch doubles the injector duration = and is used for starting in extremely cold temperatures. But it was too = much fuel for the engine to keep me aloft (just an occasional sputter). = I was only at about 1100 AGL at the time so my emergency procedures only = got as far as: turn toward airport, switch fuel tank, aux fuel pump, = verify fuel pressure, primary switches turned on... shit, time to find a = place to land this thing... call mayday, choose best spot, fly under = traffic signal and onto road. Mom was cool and collected the whole time. We were very lucky to find = a gap in traffic, the cars were waiting for the light I flew under. Also = really glad to have a plane as nimble as an RV. I don't think I could = have done it in a Bonanza. (course a Bonanza doesn't have a 'cold start = switch' either) It was not until after all the commotion on my drive back to OKB that = I finally had a few minutes to think about what could have been the = cause... then I really felt stupid. If only my emergency procedures = went one more step and I would have tried tweaking the mixture I could = have saved myself a lot of embarrassment.. But when it is time to = fly/land the plane, that is what you have to do.=20 Sure enough, upon return to the plane I discovered the cold start = switch flipped. I checked out everything else, ran fine. Later in the = afternoon I flew it home to OKB from Palomar. I am so very grateful = that extreme embarrassment is all I suffer. Thanks for all the support = from the GA community. --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CAC373.0377AAF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Way to go David!!
 
Fly the plane was the correct thing to = do. There is=20 no embarrassment if confessing what happened. We are all now aware of = another=20 problem that can occur. I'm sure everybody will add check cold start to = their=20 engine out procedure.
 
However, since you have shown such = prowess and=20 demonstrated the ability to execute emergency landings in dangerous = situations on the interstate with =E9lan on multiple occasions I = think a new=20 call sign may be in order.
 
Perhaps Doc "Freeway" Leonard =
 
or since you are an = anesthesiologist.....Doc=20 "Highway" Leonard.
 
I'll leave the group to=20 decide  ;-)
 
Great job keeping mom = safe.
 
Monty
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Leonard
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 = 9:55=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = [SoCAL-RVlist]=20 Re: Off Field Landing

Ok, sounds like I have some fessing up to do...
 
I took my mom up for a flight on her birthday and we went to = overfly the=20 area we are going to be doing a memorial pass today.  I was = entering=20 a user waypoint in my hand held GPS and my hand must have accidentally = hit the=20 'cold start' switch.  That switch doubles the injector duration = and is=20 used for starting in extremely cold temperatures.  But it was too = much=20 fuel for the engine to keep me aloft (just an occasional = sputter).  I was=20 only at about 1100 AGL at the time so my emergency procedures only got = as far=20 as: turn toward airport, switch fuel tank, aux fuel pump, = verify=20 fuel pressure, primary switches turned on... shit, time to find a = place to=20 land this thing... call mayday, choose best spot, fly under = traffic=20 signal and onto road.
 
Mom was cool and collected the whole time.  We were very = lucky to=20 find a gap in traffic, the cars were waiting for the light I flew = under. Also really glad to have a plane as nimble as an = RV.  I=20 don't think I could have done it in a Bonanza. (course a Bonanza = doesn't have=20 a 'cold start switch' either)
 
It was not until after all the commotion on my drive back to = OKB=20 that I finally had a few minutes to think about what could have been = the=20 cause...  then I really felt stupid.  If only my emergency=20 procedures went one more step and I would have tried tweaking the = mixture I=20 could have saved myself a lot of embarrassment..  But when it is = time to=20 fly/land the plane, that is what you have to do. 
 
Sure enough, upon return to the plane I discovered the cold start = switch=20 flipped.  I checked out everything else, ran fine.  Later in = the=20 afternoon I flew it home to OKB from Palomar.  I am so very = grateful that=20 extreme embarrassment is all I suffer.  Thanks for all the = support from=20 the GA community.
 
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David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net
 
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