X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net ([68.230.241.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4165409 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:47:25 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.43; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100314154648.FSKX19579.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:46:48 -0400 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.128.205]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id t3mn1d00A4S1t5C043mnox; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:46:47 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=TTjbbkynbnR63pKaJxciEMoOA/8Tvb3tS8UBzzTBYmU= c=1 sm=1 a=l_qWj5FE2mMA:10 a=Vegc0WxVmH5BHtpNDyThtA==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=Ih8eLhRhAAAA:8 a=-ps2qlDBAAAA:8 a=0zztLwQBAAAA:8 a=1vwnCo1qAAAA:8 a=bYwOcgwjAAAA:8 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=akFrz7TDAAAA:20 a=BaFy2qM4AAAA:20 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=8MVkXaLX3_7Nx-CWCrEA:9 a=RvXPAT9nz_Rebz_8Kf8A:7 a=lcbj7jXNbzn9lNpNJ7N-ICUouD0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=G5Y-Pigq6wsA:10 a=pCXVwVFskg8A:10 a=wbNF9EEnPKUA:10 a=sthVQ1JI6DEA:10 a=Wi7vcNMgcRsA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=x-viYeSu4pYA:10 a=ao4RW71Vw8YA:10 a=jeN6Q-uZn2oA:10 a=dI8tCp0qkRo00SqS7sAA:9 a=puVRYcUcLxtQxQ9-iE0A:7 a=UQ1RrpwmLuf-bTtPWoD2VKl7z5QA:4 a=Vegc0WxVmH5BHtpNDyThtA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Off Field Landing Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:46:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01CAC352.CCE2A320" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcrDhnY5rOe4vzHlQNOfwP1kI+SlCQADjNTA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CAC352.CCE2A320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SO thankful (understatement) that the outcome was so inconsequential. =20 One thing that it may point to is giving attention to panel layout, not = just the ergonomics of convenience, but also of safety. Weird stuff happens. =20 The other is the weird imbalance in news coverage. Just a glance of the = CHP reports show at least 30 traffic accidents in CA yesterday; and about 8 = with serious injuries; and only a few made even the local news. One plane = lands on a street with no damage or injuries, and it's national news. =20 Al =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:55 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Off Field Landing =20 Ok, sounds like I have some fessing up to do... =20 I took my mom up for a flight on her birthday and we went to overfly the area we are going to be doing a memorial pass today. I was entering a = user waypoint in my hand held GPS and my hand must have accidentally hit the 'cold start' switch. That switch doubles the injector duration and is = used for starting in extremely cold temperatures. But it was too much fuel = for the engine to keep me aloft (just an occasional sputter). I was only at about 1100 AGL at the time so my emergency procedures only got as far = as: turn toward airport, switch fuel tank, aux fuel pump, verify fuel = pressure, primary switches turned on... shit, time to find a place to land this thing... call mayday, choose best spot, fly under traffic signal and = onto road. =20 Mom was cool and collected the whole time. We were very lucky to find a = gap in traffic, the cars were waiting for the light I flew under. Also = really glad to have a plane as nimble as an RV. I don't think I could have = done it in a Bonanza. (course a Bonanza doesn't have a 'cold start switch' = either) =20 It was not until after all the commotion on my drive back to OKB that I finally had a few minutes to think about what could have been the = cause... then I really felt stupid. If only my emergency procedures went one = more step and I would have tried tweaking the mixture I could have saved = myself a lot of embarrassment.. But when it is time to fly/land the plane, that = is what you have to do.=20 =20 Sure enough, upon return to the plane I discovered the cold start switch flipped. I checked out everything else, ran fine. Later in the = afternoon I flew it home to OKB from Palomar. I am so very grateful that extreme embarrassment is all I suffer. Thanks for all the support from the GA community. =20 --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net =20 =20 On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:56 AM, rv6flyer wrote: =20 http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/Plane-emergency-landing-San-Mar= cos -Blvd/nX7KBM5oIk25X1pz7anz1Q.cspx http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-03-13/local-county-news/airplane-makes-= eme rgency-landing-on-san-marcos-roadway http://www.sacbee.com/2010/03/13/2605049/pilot-lands-plane-safely-on-sd.h= tml http://kathrynsreport.com/?p=3D2139 Wonder how much of the above is true other than an airplane landed on a road. 'If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.' -Mark Twain=20 --- In SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com = , "rvflyer_2000" wrote: > > Sounds like someone we know!!!! >=20 > http://tinyurl.com/ydwcdtf > __._,_.___ Reply to sender = | Reply to = group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic=20 Messages in this topic = (2)=20 Recent Activity:=20 * New Members 2=20 =20 Visit Your Group=20 =20 Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CAC352.CCE2A320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SO thankful (understatement) that = the outcome was so inconsequential.

 

One thing that it may point to is = giving attention to panel layout, not just the ergonomics of convenience, but = also of safety.  Weird stuff happens.

 

The other is the weird imbalance = in news coverage.  Just a glance of the CHP reports show at least 30 traffic accidents in CA yesterday; = and about 8 with serious injuries; and only a few made even the local news. =  One plane lands on a street with no damage or injuries, and it’s = national news.

 

Al

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Sunday, March 14, = 2010 6:55 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Off Field Landing

 

Ok, sounds like I have some fessing up to = do...

 

I took my mom up for a flight on her birthday = and we went to overfly the area we are going to be doing a memorial pass today.  I was entering a user waypoint in my hand held GPS and my = hand must have accidentally hit the 'cold start' switch.  That switch = doubles the injector duration and is used for starting in extremely cold temperatures.  But it was too much fuel for the engine to keep me = aloft (just an occasional sputter).  I was only at about 1100 AGL at the = time so my emergency procedures only got as far as: turn toward airport, switch fuel tank, aux fuel pump, verify fuel pressure, = primary switches turned on... shit, time to find a place to land this thing... = call mayday, choose best spot, fly under traffic signal and onto = road.

 

Mom was cool and collected the whole = time.  We were very lucky to find a gap in traffic, the cars were waiting for = the light I flew under. Also really glad to have a plane as nimble = as an RV.  I don't think I could have done it in a Bonanza. (course a = Bonanza doesn't have a 'cold start switch' either)

 

It was not until after all the commotion = on my drive back to OKB that I finally had a few minutes to think about what = could have been the cause...  then I really felt stupid.  If only my emergency procedures went one more step and I would have tried tweaking = the mixture I could have saved myself a lot of embarrassment..  But = when it is time to fly/land the plane, that is what you have to = do. 

 

Sure enough, upon return to the plane I = discovered the cold start switch flipped.  I checked out everything else, ran = fine.  Later in the afternoon I flew it home to OKB from Palomar.  I am so = very grateful that extreme embarrassment is all I suffer.  Thanks for = all the support from the GA community.

 

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net

 



 

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:56 AM, rv6flyer = <gary@rvdar.com> = wrote:

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http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/Plane-emergen= cy-landing-San-Marcos-Blvd/nX7KBM5oIk25X1pz7anz1Q.cspx

http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-03-13/local-county-ne= ws/airplane-makes-emergency-landing-on-san-marcos-roadway

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/03/13/2605049/pilot-lands-pl= ane-safely-on-sd.html

http://kathrynsreport.com/?p=3D2139

Wonder how much of the above is true other than an airplane landed on a = road.

'If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.'
-Mark Twain



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> Sounds like someone we know!!!!
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> http://tinyurl.com/ydwcdtf
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