X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.26] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4165360 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:10:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.92.26; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so676299qwb.25 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:10:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Bz0aArP74zpPN2RuMUM6/qTtEb144ohqxfPDolKJ5Uo=; b=Hhv2vXEtyMUxJheUn0lUXEwxevBpqNNWSUwV/MCOwon84/1JO+PWfoeb0EoSB/QTZU WDjws4EwcBBvWIkvzWv1ao/vj2+NLs/qjVbI9Vl/ttzi+53mllivREUGGTXc/4fAiNk9 Ne2feaO2gaCdzBRzfeXBResHVAaqKuGxfNTjs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CCMqeSvA+wZBrdbiYQ8JiZYXsL5vPk45bNzz13lvmGUZpG31R63dOiVZ79igGa9x/c X4ciaYyruX/GeFesXx/HVy/74RIlebzMTenE4TnKOrEu9v1/0f7GXNCb9PftVUrSfOWo Cb3xEpVC7Va7gkh8dJSo2WwxKr9nhpYIIV9VY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.66.80 with SMTP id m16mr1166902qai.346.1268575815707; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:10:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:10:15 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b5e2052d0178a671 Message-ID: <1b4b137c1003140710t128973efv6c3d49f04980efde@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ut-Oh... From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8e5e35ddab890481c35265 --00c09f8e5e35ddab890481c35265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know Dave or Jon wouldn't phrase it this way but I've already received a number of messages from others about these two recent in-flight power failures due to EC2 issues. Jon's was due to a loose mounting nut inside the EC2 that shorted the main power input filter to ground and burned open both foils from the 2 power input pins. How lucky was that. Anyway, at the risk of sounding defensive, I thought I'd share my respons= e to one of them that suggested changing the EC2 case to an external mount of some sort. I'm sure there are scores of messages on the way urging me to place switch guards on the cold start switch : ) REPLY Hello ---------- I'm aware of the failure and have the unit here for repair. Like a thousand other critical details in building an aircraft, it is no= t possible to explicitly spell out all of them. The precise method and hardware used to accomplish it are not part of the EC2 or the instructions. The first paragraph of the installation guide does say the following: "Needless to say, the quality of installation is just as important as the quality of the hardware itself. It is not practical to include a course on proper electrical wiring practices in these installation instructions, but it is imperative that proper wiring techniques be employed during the installation of the EC2." It was my thought that avoiding the presence of loose metal objects inside an electrical device that your life depends on fell into the category of "needless to say". Nevertheless, a cautionary note might well be worth adding. As also state= d in the first paragraph of the instructions, " I want your project to succeed and your life to be a long and happy one. = " All the best, Tracy Crook, RWS On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:34 AM, David Leonard wrote: > Boy, word sure gets around these days.. > > short answer... inadvertently hit cold start switch while messing with GP= S > and flying at 1000' AGL.. not enough time to troubleshoot... had to fly > plane and find a place to land. > > Both happy and appalled when the I realized the problem 2 minutes after t= he > commotion stopped. The tower must have been plain appalled when I took o= ff > again later this afternoon. > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Dave wrote: > >> Bill Monroe wrote: >> >>> >>> Dave=92s going to have an interesting story to tell=85 >>> >>> http://www.cbs8.com/global/story.asp?s=3D12136229 >>> >>> Glad he landed safe.. >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > > --00c09f8e5e35ddab890481c35265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know Dave or Jon wouldn't phrase it this way but I've already rec= eived a number of messages from others about these two recent in-flight pow= er failures due to EC2 issues.

=A0Jon's was due to a loose moun= ting nut inside the EC2 that shorted the main power input filter to ground = and burned open both foils from the 2 power input pins.=A0 How lucky was th= at.

=A0 Anyway, at the risk of sounding defensive, I thought I'd share = my response to one of them that suggested changing the EC2 case to an exter= nal mount of some sort.=A0 I'm sure there are scores of messages on the= way urging me to place switch guards on the cold start switch=A0 : )

REPLY

Hello ----------
=A0 I'm aware of the failure and h= ave the unit here for repair.

=A0=A0 Like a thousand other critical details in building an aircraft, it is not possible to explicitly spell out all of them.=A0 The precise method and hardware used to accomplish it are not part of the EC2 or the instructions. The first paragraph of the installation guide does say the following:

"Needless to say, the quality of installation is just as import= ant as the quality of the hardware itself.=A0 It is not practical to include a course on proper electrical wiring practices in these installation instructions, but it is imperative that proper wiring techniques be employed during the installation of the EC2."

It was my thought that avoiding the presence of loose metal objects inside an electrical device that your life depends on fell into the category of=A0 "needless to say".

Nevertheless, a cautionary note m= ight well be worth adding.=A0=A0 As also stated in the first paragraph of t= he instructions,
" I want your project to succeed and your life to be a long and happy one. "

All = the best,
Tracy Crook, =A0=A0 RWS
=A0<= /span>

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:34 AM, David Leonard <= span dir=3D"ltr"><wdleonard@gmail= .com> wrote:
Boy,=A0 word sure gets around these days..=A0

short answer... inadv= ertently hit cold start switch while messing with GPS and flying at 1000= 9; AGL..=A0 not enough time to troubleshoot...=A0 had to fly plane and find= a place to land.

Both happy and appalled when the I realized the problem 2 minutes after= the commotion stopped.=A0 The tower must have been plain appalled when I t= ook off again later this afternoon.

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.Rota= ryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net


On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM= , Dave <david.staten@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill Monroe = wrote:

Dave=92s going to have an interesting story to tell=85

http://www.cbs8.com/global/story.asp?s=3D12136229

Glad he landed safe..

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Homepage: =A0http:/= /www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and UnSub: =A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists= /flyrotary/List.html



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