X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.242] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.3) with SMTP id 4152818 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:35:07 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.13.13.242; envelope-from=bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 56640 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2010 02:34:32 -0000 Received: from adsl-88-105-188.asm.bellsouth.net (bryanwinberry@98.88.105.188 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Mar 2010 18:34:32 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: OSuEAS2swBAaBd4uKxevNivslbMG7JXpWjAWZVmoYyRm6qcW_W2VUA-- X-YMail-OSG: VQqRKOgVM1lZFF0ve5Sp35zyCwp9SDvcfBi1gifWhV975FJoxsrt73r7wKZDbzES8qeRPyF_2hrbpC6fIh4hISEiAizQ5YVN9rCls971LA3KX_Xe8nzgdSZrusyTjnNo4ZKqnHS6fUPbA6L0j85thBOf4QI68JzGyZylrdkhDSqP.wgZ9MYbWwOL8RLDxqlliAF7HL6HH8vTz3qGWRXSnz3xN_aVgmGa1LcTQn_fz96MQuTCCdN7_HMtdzTcC_7SahucQtGBRlWRmsnt X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bryan Winberry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: The stalled propeller blade Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:34:30 -0500 Message-ID: <285EA0A28F0A49D3A8BDCDD6DB1ADECE@acer7fbfa7e2f7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acq7/3scrFxbpcVVT7a4cxn+OLa9QAADBxKQ Dave, Please don't attribute that statement to Lynn. He was responding to me with the same font. And you are correct about the pitch of the plane changing the AOA of the prop. I seem to recall this being talked about in ground school many years ago. But still, fixed prop AOA isn't something we intentionally control like a CS prop. At least that's the way it seems to me. P-factor is just something we have to put up with till we gain higher speeds on climbout. I need to go to the basement and work on the project or I'll never get to the prop part. Thanks, Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:01 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The stalled propeller blade Lynn Hanover wrote: > > AOA, I think in terms of the wing producing max lift. The AOA > changes with elevator input. A prop is not unlike a wing, but I still > don't have a grasp of what is causing AOA change in a fixed pitch > prop. But, usually I have to read things three or four times in order > to "get it". > Ok.. a "fixed" pitch prop can have a changing AOA.. heres how.. The pitch angle of the plane.. itself... along the crankshaft axis.. has an impact on how the prop sees the oncoming air, and hence varies the angle of attack of the prop blades. An airplane flying at lower airspeeds in its regime will tend to fly nose high.. An airplane flying at higher airspeeds will tend to be nose level or even a tad nose down.. The same prop on the same plane at two different speeds will result in two different pitch angles and therefore two different angle of attacks.. which then have an effect on thrust. -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html