X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from poplet2.per.eftel.com ([203.24.100.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 4016146 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:21:31 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.24.100.45; envelope-from=lendich@aanet.com.au Received: from sv1-1.aanet.com.au (sv1-1.per.aanet.com.au [203.24.100.68]) by poplet2.per.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A0D17380C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:20:54 +0800 (WST) Received: from ownerf1fc517b8 (203.171.92.134.static.rev.aanet.com.au [203.171.92.134]) by sv1-1.aanet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 64A82BEC008 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:20:48 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <2DED065C04954680B856262EE9886B46@ownerf1fc517b8> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ink Jet Technology Injectors Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:20:53 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091211-0, 12/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Thanks Charlie, I was onto it. George (down under) > George, > > Google 'honda stratified charge'. > http://www.google.com/search?q=honda+stratified+charge&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a > > Charlie > > On 12/11/2009 1:35 PM, George Lendich wrote: >> John, >> Don't know - however I'd be surprised if it hadn't been tried before. In >> this era where emphasis is on pollution control, you would think all >> these thing would come to the forefront of >> engine technology. >> Has anyone one got any info on the Honda Civic, maybe someone had one and >> knows a little about it. >> BTW finally saw the video Kelly and I was impressed with what I saw. Ink >> jet technology must be better than I imagined. >> If it can be done for heavy fuels, they can do it for the lighter fuel as >> well - maybe? It would be good if they could do it without high pressure. >> I know more than one of the smaller rotary engines run fuel through the >> rotor to cool the rotor and it certainly would heat the fuel and it may >> be for this reason they do it. However I'm wondering about droplet sizes >> and what happens when cool air hits the hot vaporized fuel - does it >> condense the fuel back into larger droplets. If so that would negate the >> effect. To my way of thinking what is needed is hot vaporized fuel >> suspended in cold air - I'm no where near smart enough to solve this >> problem. >> George ( down under) >> >> George, wasn't the idea of the pre-combustion chamber used in the >> original Honda Civic, something along this line of thinking. The >> car was achiving over 50 miles to the gallon at that time. JohnD >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* George Lendich >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:19 PM >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Ink Jet Technology Injectors >> >> If the fuel could be vaporized just prior to injection, and >> within the motor (acting as containment) - the problem would >> be solved. I don't know of anyone with the answer yet. >> George ( down under) >> >> Group, >> Possably a future fuel injector system for our use >> even though designed primarily >> for heavy >> fuels.................Interesting................ >> Watch This: From Ink Jets to Jet Engines >> >> Watch This: From Ink Jets to Jet Engines >> >> >> A maker of propulsion systems for unmanned aerial vehicles >> discovered a novel use for ink jets: they've created a >> MEMS fuel injection system that can improve small engine >> efficiency. This video explores how the device produces >> much smaller fuel droplets >> >> >> — down to 10 microns — helping improve fuel mix and >> combustion. >> >> http://www.nwuav.com/video_MEMS.html >> -- >> Kelly Troyer >> "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine >> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 >> "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >> >> >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >