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George,

Google 'honda stratified charge'.
http://www.google.com/search?q=honda+stratified+charge&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Charlie

On 12/11/2009 1:35 PM, George Lendich wrote:
>  John,
> Don't know - however I'd be surprised if it hadn't been tried before. 
> In this era where emphasis is on pollution control, you would think 
> all these thing would come to the forefront of
> engine technology.
> Has anyone one got any info on the Honda Civic, maybe someone had one 
> and knows a little about it.
> BTW finally saw the video Kelly and I was impressed with what I saw. 
> Ink jet technology must be better than I imagined.
> If it can be done for heavy fuels, they can do it for the lighter fuel 
> as well - maybe? It would be good if they could do it without high 
> pressure.
> I know more than one of the smaller rotary engines run fuel through 
> the rotor to cool the rotor and it certainly would heat the fuel and 
> it may be for this reason they do it. However I'm wondering about 
> droplet sizes and what happens when cool air hits the hot vaporized 
> fuel - does it condense the fuel back into larger droplets. If so that 
> would negate the effect. To my way of thinking what is needed is hot 
> vaporized fuel suspended in cold air - I'm no where near smart enough 
> to solve this problem.
> George ( down under)
>
>     George, wasn't the idea of the pre-combustion chamber used in the
>     original Honda Civic, something along this line of thinking.  The
>     car was achiving over 50 miles to the gallon at that time.  JohnD
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* George Lendich <mailto:lendich@aanet.com.au>
>         *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft
>         <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>         *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:19 PM
>         *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Ink Jet Technology Injectors
>
>         If the fuel could be vaporized just prior to injection, and
>         within the motor (acting as containment) - the problem would
>         be solved. I don't know of anyone with the answer yet.
>         George ( down under)
>
>                  Group,
>                     Possably a future fuel injector system for our use
>             even though designed primarily
>                 for heavy
>             fuels.................Interesting................
>             Watch This: From Ink Jets to Jet Engines
>
>             Watch This: From Ink Jets to Jet Engines
>             <http://click.email.globalspec.com/?qs=de0c2e051f93e7740bb35a41f22eb1a72f04887eccc2d44bc3ec5b0e8ecab9bc6be6ec74e8a235e0>
>             A maker of propulsion systems for unmanned aerial vehicles
>             discovered a novel use for ink jets: they've created a
>             MEMS fuel injection system that can improve small engine
>             efficiency. This video explores how the device produces
>             much smaller fuel droplets
>             <http://click.email.globalspec.com/?qs=de0c2e051f93e774bdf2b874a06cbd29967f2ce5af1a95eac33fb3da20d4d7317da89384d96a9a5f>
>             — down to 10 microns — helping improve fuel mix and
>             combustion.
>
>             http://www.nwuav.com/video_MEMS.html
>             --
>             Kelly Troyer
>             "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
>             "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
>             "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
>
>
>