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Lënda: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: leaky water pump bolt
Data: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:03 +0000 (UTC)
Për: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

what is the purpose of the sandwich plate?

 

Bill Schertz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott" <squiggles@yahoo.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:33:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: leaky water pump bolt

I had wantedd to be clear for the archives :)

The shims look to be .018 in thickness as unsicentifically measured against a feeler gauge.  Then I had a better thought as I am removing two gaskets I can use them as the shims.  While no longer wise for sealing, they will work for shims.

I had done a cursory straight edge check with no obvious major imperfections which would have given the drip rate observed.  There is a little roughness on the iron water pump mating surface but again nothing obvious.  Though I am going to clean that up before I pull the engine off the mount and replace tomorrow.  Use some ultra gray this time, and verify the shims and torque sequence...

Stating the simple and obvious is always welcome...I've already had a few, "wait I thought I already torqued you down" moments  :)


--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: leaky water pump bolt
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 3:49 PM

Yes, Scott – they do go between the housing and the block – if I stated otherwise, I was in error.  In  other words, since the gasket moves the housing away from the block – that part of the housing that does not have the gasket support should have the shims to provide support to the housing when you tighten the nut down.  I would say if you used a more-than-standard gasket thickness-wise, then you would probably need more shims. 

 

The only other thing I can think of is to lay a flat edge around the housing and the block area to make certain both are flat.  Check for nicks in either around the sealing area, etc.  I know you probably have already done this, but doesn’t hurt to mention it.

 

When I use silicon sealant I put it around all the bolts and do not use the shims.

 

Ed

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:16 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: leaky water pump bolt

 

Yeah, I did install those shims. In the previous post those would be the studs at #2 and #4. And I deduced from mazdatrix's site they would go between the housing and the block. Not between the housing and nut. Though as I am using a sandwhich plate and there are 2 gaskets in use one between the block and the sandwhich plate, the 2nd between the sandwhich plate and the water pump housing. So I should have used 2 shims per stud. What doesn't seem to fit in is the amount of seepage/ leakage that occured. As can be seen from the YouTube video seepage only from the #3, no where around that hole was leaking. But with the lack of evidence to support another conclusion I'll double the shims and hope for the best. If I were to forgo the combo gasket smeared with silicone approach would the shims still be required?





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