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Ahem.

We "will not" be grinding and welding on the $2000 Mistral cast aluminum 
intake manifold. We can fab a different exhaust manifold before it gets 
to that for way way less than risking screwing up the aluminum..

Thanks.
Dave

John Slade wrote:
> Chris / Dave,
> For about $99 you could try it out for size. Details and pictures of 
> my setup are at http://canardaviation.com/cozy/chap29h.htm and search 
> for "XS Power manifold". Unfortunately, looking at the pictures of my 
> turbo installed on the manifold, the turbo ends up too high, right 
> where your injectors are. If it were me, I'd move the injectors :) 
> Perhaps that's actually the simplest path. 4 bosses, 4 welds and 
> you're done.
>
> One thought that comes to mind for me is supporting the turbo. I 
> realize that you may be planning to add this later, but please don't 
> forget - I think supporting the weight of the turbo from the top 
> independent of the manifold is essential to avoiding cracks in the 
> manifold.
>
> I hope this helps.
> John
>
>
> Dave wrote:
>> Chris.. at this point we might be best served with a manifold that 
>> DOES NOT have a wastegate port on it..
>>
>> and a turbo housing that has an integral wastegate built into it.
>>
>> It will involve some cost but it also means we can order exactly what 
>> is needed, to the point of calling up John Slade and saying.. where 
>> did you get it and what are the spec's..
>>
>> Those manifolds that I provided were great experiments but to be IN 
>> CONTACT with the injector housing heat shields is just too close.. 
>> 1600 degrees next to fuel that boils in the 2-300 degree range.
>>
>> I hate to sound flip, but given the cowl space, and all the other 
>> issues you've dealt with to date, just write a few wills and buy what 
>> we KNOW will work instead of trying to make fit what MIGHT work.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Chris Barber wrote:
>>> Closer shot of the interference of the Waste-gate arm contacting the 
>>> bottom of the fuel rail/injector housing on the Mistral intake
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