Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #47730
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:29:07 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I have a custom oil cooler built by Griffin.  My design specs to them included design for 120 psi oil side pressure.  It is very robust.  Before running it, I tested it to 140 psi – no problem.

 

AN-10 line is fine for oil side for relatively short runs.

 

I haven’t missed having a thermostat in the oil system.  Typically, by the time I start up, taxi, do run-up checks, talk to tower (or traffic); my oil temp is 140F+; which is what I like to see before putting on full power.  Of course I haven’t flown with air temps less than about mid 40s.

 

Al G

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent:
Friday, August 14, 2009 5:35 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

I called Fluidyne directly (Gary Johnson), he will make a special order AN-10; prefers I go through Summit but will deal with me directly if Summit chokes.

Before I spend any more money I’ll try laying the RX7 cooler beside the engine in a last chance attempt … hate to give up that thermostat.

Jeff

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:39 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

Hi Mark, that’s a nice looking cooler of similar construction and total surface area to the stock Mazda, but brings more questions.

What is the 3rd (female) port for? – a drain?

I don’t see a thermostat - have you located one somewhere else, or ignored that feature?

I guess this is the only oil cooler in your installation – where did you locate it, draw air from, etc? – any photos?

The connectors are AN-12 – my engine is adapted for AN-10, this complicates things a bit  … mainly $150 worth of hose, adaptors and fittings.

 Jeff.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:55 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

Jeff,

 

I notice that Fluidyne makes different types.  The type I used is shown here... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLD-DB-30417/?image=large

 

Mark

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast.com> wrote:

Thanks Mark, checked out Fluidyne; they’re available through Summit Racing … I don’t see any difference between them and Earl’s, except earl’s has more input/output connector options.  Btw, I am being cautious; that’s why the post for previous experience; at the moment I’m looking for options.

Jeff

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:39 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

Jeff,

 

Be very careful on selecting an oil cooler.  A few years back, one builder had two in-flight oil cooler failures... not good.  Maybe someone recalls the brand.  Also, be sure to pressure test whatever you choose.  

 

Someone tried using an a/c evaporator for an oil cooler and it failed within a few hours resulting in a forced landing at an air force base.  

 

I went with a Fluidyne cooler, used by the NASCAR folks. 

 

Mark S. 

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:

No experience with Earl’s version; but it appears to be the same as the Setrab (copy, made by?), which has a good reputation.

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:29 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

Does anyone have experience will Earl’s “Temp-A-Cure” oil coolers with a 13B rotary?

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=Accessories&dept=Oil!_Cooler

or

http://www.holley.com/types/Temp-A-Cure%20Oil%20Coolers.asp

 

Earl’s quoted specs:

Features

·        Manufactured in the U.S.A from aircraft spec aluminum alloy, using the latest vacuum brazing technology.

·        Corrugated screen internal turbulator plates increase both thermal efficiency and mechanical strength resulting in the most efficient, smallest and lightest practical package.

·        Manufactured from thin aluminum plates for the fastest possible heat transfer.

·        Inlet and outlet fittings o-ring to the top plate assembly.

·        Designed for the range of oil flows and air speeds encountered in high performance automobiles.

·        Available in three widths with inlet and outlet fittings male AN.

·        Every cooler is pressure checked to 175 psi. Periodic samples are burst tested to 350 psi.

Jeff

 

 

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