X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from EXHUB003-2.exch003intermedia.net ([207.5.74.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPS id 3813048 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:40:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.5.74.29; envelope-from=jwhaley@datacast.com Received: from EXVMBX003-5.exch003intermedia.net ([207.5.74.45]) by EXHUB003-2.exch003intermedia.net ([207.5.74.29]) with mapi; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:39:23 -0700 From: Jeff Whaley To: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:39:22 -0700 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers Thread-Index: AcocaVWOpJmbZVLOQx24TFk2ID1o/QAbDc+g Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C03ABB0A7362B84BB53D544B3C305E0E0140E9AF06FBEXVMBX0035e_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_C03ABB0A7362B84BB53D544B3C305E0E0140E9AF06FBEXVMBX0035e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark, that's a nice looking cooler of similar construction and total sur= face area to the stock Mazda, but brings more questions. What is the 3rd (female) port for? - a drain? I don't see a thermostat - have you located one somewhere else, or ignored = that feature? I guess this is the only oil cooler in your installation - where did you lo= cate it, draw air from, etc? - any photos? The connectors are AN-12 - my engine is adapted for AN-10, this complicates= things a bit ... mainly $150 worth of hose, adaptors and fittings. Jeff. From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:55 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers Jeff, I notice that Fluidyne makes different types. The type I used is shown her= e... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLD-DB-30417/?image=3Dlarge Mark On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Jeff Whaley > wrote: Thanks Mark, checked out Fluidyne; they're available through Summit Racing = ... I don't see any difference between them and Earl's, except earl's has m= ore input/output connector options. Btw, I am being cautious; that's why t= he post for previous experience; at the moment I'm looking for options. Jeff From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:39 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers Jeff, Be very careful on selecting an oil cooler. A few years back, one builder = had two in-flight oil cooler failures... not good. Maybe someone recalls t= he brand. Also, be sure to pressure test whatever you choose. Someone tried using an a/c evaporator for an oil cooler and it failed withi= n a few hours resulting in a forced landing at an air force base. I went with a Fluidyne cooler, used by the NASCAR folks. Mark S. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Al Gietzen > wrote: No experience with Earl's version; but it appears to be the same as the Set= rab (copy, made by?), which has a good reputation. Al -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:29 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Earls Performance Oil Coolers Does anyone have experience will Earl's "Temp-A-Cure" oil coolers with a 13= B rotary? http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=3DAccessories&dept=3DOil!_Coo= ler or http://www.holley.com/types/Temp-A-Cure%20Oil%20Coolers.asp Earl's quoted specs: Features * Manufactured in the U.S.A from aircraft spec aluminum alloy, using= the latest vacuum brazing technology. * Corrugated screen internal turbulator plates increase both thermal= efficiency and mechanical strength resulting in the most efficient, smalle= st and lightest practical package. * Manufactured from thin aluminum plates for the fastest possible he= at transfer. * Inlet and outlet fittings o-ring to the top plate assembly. * Designed for the range of oil flows and air speeds encountered in = high performance automobiles. * Available in three widths with inlet and outlet fittings male AN. * Every cooler is pressure checked to 175 psi. Periodic samples are = burst tested to 350 psi. Jeff --_000_C03ABB0A7362B84BB53D544B3C305E0E0140E9AF06FBEXVMBX0035e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mark, that’s a nice looking cooler of similar construction and total surface area to the stock Mazda, but brings more questions.

What is the 3rd (female) port for? – a drai= n?

I don’t see a thermostat - have you located one somewh= ere else, or ignored that feature?

I guess this is the only oil cooler in your installation = 211; where did you locate it, draw air from, etc? – any photos?=

The connectors are AN-12 – my engine is adapted for AN= -10, this complicates things a bit  … mainly $150 worth of hose, adap= tors and fittings.

 Jeff.

 

From: Rotary motors= in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Stei= tle
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:55 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

Jeff,

 

I notice that Fluidyne makes different types.  Th= e type I used is shown here... http= ://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLD-DB-30417/?image=3Dlarge

 

Mark

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast.com> wrote:

Thanks Mark, checked out Fluidyne; they’re available through Summit Racing … I don’= ;t see any difference between them and Earl’s, except earl’s has m= ore input/output connector options.  Btw, I am being cautious; that’= s why the post for previous experience; at the moment I’m looking for options.

Jeff

 <= /p>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lan= caironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:39 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Earls Performance Oil Coolers

 

Jeff,

 

Be very careful on selecting an oil cooler.  A few years back, one builder had two in-flight oil cooler failures... not good.  Maybe someone recalls the brand.  Also, be sure to pressure test whatev= er you choose.  

 

Someone tried using an a/c evaporator for an oil cooler and it failed within a few hours resulting in a forced landing at an air force base.  

 

I went with a Fluidyne cooler, used by the NASCAR folks. 

 

Mark S. 

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net= > wrote:

No experience with Earl̵= 7;s version; but it appears to be the same as= the Setrab (copy, made by?), which has a good reputation.

 

Al

 

-----Origina= l Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lan= caironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:29 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Earls Performance Oil Coolers=

 

Does anyone = have experience will Earl’s “Temp-A-Cure” oil coolers with a 1= 3B rotary?

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=3DAccessori= es&dept=3DOil!_Cooler

or

http://www.holley.com/types/Temp-A-Cure%20Oil%20Coolers.a= sp

 

Earl’s= quoted specs:

Features

·        Manufactured in the U.S.A from aircraft spec aluminum alloy, using the latest vacuum bra= zing technology.

·        Corrugated screen internal turbulator plates increase both thermal efficiency and mechanical strength resulting in the most efficient, smallest and lightest practical package.

·        Manufactured from thin aluminum plates for the fastest possible heat transfer.

·        Inlet and outlet fittings o-ring to the top plate assembly.

·        Designed for the range of oil flows and air speeds encountered in high performance automobiles.

·        Available in three widths with inlet and outlet fittings male AN.

·        Every cooler is pressure checked to 175 psi. Periodic samples are burst tested to= 350 psi.

Jeff

 

 

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