X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from host.roblinphoto.com ([72.52.218.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPS id 3810414 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:50:55 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.52.218.78; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from c-68-35-128-192.hsd1.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.128.192]:50734 helo=quail) by host.roblinphoto.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MbEDZ-0008Uz-UG for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:50:18 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:50:14 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: More T-Shirt Stuff Message-Id: <20090812075014.1e859c7a.bob@bob-white.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.roblinphoto.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com OK, so the list isn't being over run with other messages at the moment, so here's some more t-shirt stuff. My impression is that George's design had more support than the "Aerosmith" design. I asked George to send his dxf file so that I could get a higher resolution image. I loaded the dxf into my drafting program. The program (VariCAD) will only output a bmp file. Wal-Mart needs a jpg file. No problem, I can convert bmp to jpg with something else. Then I find the program will only output bmp files from a 3D image. It took three frustrating hours relearning how to make a 2D image into a 3D image. Then I found out the bmp conversion doesn't actually work, at least not on my machine. OK, so I revert to a screen capture which gives me a pretty good image anyway. I could have done that directly from the 2D!!! I sent George a copy of the 3D image that resulted. He said he really liked it and suggested a few modifications. After getting up to speed on the 2D to 3D conversion, it was easy to make the modifications, and produce both 2D and 3D versions of George's design. The files are in non-compressed jpg format (which means they are about 300K each) so will not be posted to the list. I've put them in a photo album format at http://www.bob-white.com/tshirt/index.html for further viewing and comment. If you have any interest at all, please take a look. I've found several ways the t-shirts can be made in small quantities. First there is the Wal-Mart service. I checked with the local store, but they would send them off to the same place I would order from over the internet, so I will try one with that route. Second, there is a company that sells iron on transfer material that can be printed on at home. Price is very reasonable at $1.09 per sheet of 8 X 11 transfer material but it does come in a box of 25 sheets. http://www.bestblanks.com/transferpapers.html Third, there is the Cafe Press that someone sent info about earlier. Fourth, there is real screen printing. This is only good for fairly large quantities, so not of interest to me. I have seen at least one source refer to the dye sublimation printing process as screen printing, but they also offered regular screen printing and distinguished between the two. Oh, you can also buy a direct to garment printer for only $15,199.00 though for some reason it only prints on light colored fabric. You have to get another one for $15,950.00 to print on dark colored fabric. I'm going to try the Wal- Mart service, and the iron on transfers. Bob W. -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/