X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3781295 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:51:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.27.227; envelope-from=wschertz@comcast.net Received: from OMTA18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by QMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LbpY1c0021bwxycACbqd1P; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from sz0070.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.124]) by OMTA18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Lbsv1c0052gfN2s8ebsvur; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:52:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:50:36 +0000 (UTC) From: wschertz@comcast.net To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <2094385337.4612881248609036700.JavaMail.root@sz0070a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Chris fuel problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_229964_994455413.1248609036699" X-Originating-IP: [99.156.206.26] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) ------=_Part_229964_994455413.1248609036699 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,=20 Since the fuel was a puddle, it [obviously-probably] formed during the time= you were=20 cranking, with the ground disconnected, I have no idea how the current woul= d=20 flow, but I suspect that your injectors were being held open, and dumping= =20 fuel into the engine, where no fire because of EC-2 not having ground.=20 I had a primary injector that was held open by the BMA tach, and would get= =20 fuel dumping from that until I corrected that problem.=20 Then you reconnected and it ran on B, poor on A, as someone suggested, your= =20 MAP may have been corrupted on A -- pure speculation on my part.=20 Bill Schertz=20 KIS Cruiser #4045=20 N343BS=20 Phase I testing=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Christopher Barber" < CBarber@TexasAttorney.net >=20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" < flyrotary@lancaironline.net >=20 Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:02 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Just livid.....=20 >I have not worked on my engine or electrics in over a week.=C2=A0 Last tim= e I=20 >ran the engine it ran so well, I wanted to taxi over and pull a first=20 >flight.=C2=A0 NOT a good idea without wings or a canard.=20 >=20 > Since then, since the airport is about to force us onto the ramp out of= =20 > our nice, comfortable hangar in order to repair the roof from damage from= =20 > Hurricane Ike, I have been refinishing the strakes.=C2=A0 I got them seal= ed up=20 > a while back, but I blew off the micro and primer finishing since I wante= d=20 > to focus on the engine.=C2=A0 Finished the UV primer yesterday and they l= ook=20 > good and should be good enough to protect from the elements for a bit.=20 >=20 > So, I go out today and start the engine.=C2=A0 I have NOT TOUCHED anythin= g with=20 > the engine or electrics in more than a week, it is not starting.=C2=A0 Cr= ap.=20 > WHAT!!!!! The dreaded NOS!!! CRAP X 10.=C2=A0 Whats up with that?=C2=A0 G= ot out,=20 > looked under the engine and there was a big puddle of FUEL.=C2=A0 Checked= all=20 > lines.=C2=A0 Turned on pumps, checked lines etc and could find nothing.= =20 >=20 > I looked at the wires to the ECU and all was secure, EXCEPT, I notice my= =20 > main (16gage) ground wire broke at the connector at the ECU.=C2=A0 Repair= ed the=20 > wire.=20 > ------=_Part_229964_994455413.1248609036699 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>
Chris= ,
Since the fuel was a puddle, it [obviously-probably] formed during the= time you were
cranking, with the ground disconnected, I have no idea h= ow the current would
flow, but I suspect that your injectors were being= held open, and dumping
fuel into the engine, where no fire because of = EC-2 not having ground.

I had a primary injector that was held open = by the BMA tach, and would get
fuel dumping from that until I corrected= that problem.

Then you reconnected and it ran on B, poor on A, as s= omeone suggested, your
MAP may have been corrupted on A -- pure specula= tion on my part.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I = testing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Barber" <= CBarber@TexasAttorney.net>
To= : "Rotary motors in aircraft" <fly= rotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:02 PMSubject: [FlyRotary] Just livid.....

>I have not worked on = my engine or electrics in over a week. Last time I
>ran the en= gine it ran so well, I wanted to taxi over and pull a first
>flight.= NOT a good idea without wings or a canard.
>
> Since the= n, since the airport is about to force us onto the ramp out of
> our= nice, comfortable hangar in order to repair the roof from damage from
= > Hurricane Ike, I have been refinishing the strakes. I got them s= ealed up
> a while back, but I blew off the micro and primer finishi= ng since I wanted
> to focus on the engine. Finished the UV pr= imer yesterday and they look
> good and should be good enough to pro= tect from the elements for a bit.
>
> So, I go out today and st= art the engine. I have NOT TOUCHED anything with
> the engine = or electrics in more than a week, it is not starting. Crap.
> = WHAT!!!!! The dreaded NOS!!! CRAP X 10. Whats up with that? Got= out,
> looked under the engine and there was a big puddle of FUEL.&= nbsp; Checked all
> lines. Turned on pumps, checked lines etc = and could find nothing.
>
> I looked at the wires to the ECU an= d all was secure, EXCEPT, I notice my
> main (16gage) ground wire br= oke at the connector at the ECU. Repaired the
> wire.
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