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Hi Mike,
From what I seem to remember about engine operation (I'm far from an
expert), the surging sounds like an over rich mixture, and the knocking
and banging would indicate the timing was too far advanced. The EC2
has a timing adjustment in Mode 8. Can you put a timing light on the
engine and compare timing on the B controller with timing on the A
controller? If the timing is off, that should be fixed first. Then if
the surging is still a problem, try adjusting the mixture to see if it
improves. Bob W.
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:52:27 -0600
Mike Fontenot <mikef@apexconsultingservices.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Hope the summer has been going well for the rest of you. I had a detour in
my EC2 tuning, but am back at it.
Summary: EC2 on A controller has the engine surging at just about all RPMs I
could manage to attain. Kind of a "rummm.... rummmm..... rummm..". I could
only get the RPMs up to around 1800 (out of a 5600 max) and the engine is
knocking and banging, and even making a 'pffffut' kind of noise. Sounded
like air or something. Maybe coolant spewing out, because at the end of my
session today I did find coolant on the ground, from my overflow tank. Not
smooth at all and I was afraid of losing parts! off the engine! Really
rough, never develops much power.
However, when I flip to the B controller it runs great. Very smooth,
responsive, no surging at all. I can run the engine through the full range
of RPM. I noticed that a MAP of 22 is at about 5200 RPM. In may I got to
around 4700 at a MAP of 22. I noted this because I was going to start with
Mode 3 programming (at MAP 22). I could not get anywhere near MAP 22.
Background: I had been making progress getting the EC2 tuned in May and
early June. The A controller worked fine but the B controller would not
function and the engine would die. TC had me remove the EC2 and send it back
to him. He did find problems with the B side and repaired it. And set all
the programming back to the defaults.
I have dual crank position sensors, one dedicated to A controller, and one
dedicated to the B controller. TC was kind enough to make the repairs before
his trip to Colorado in mid-June. I got the unit back, reinstalled it last
weekend, fired the engine up for a quick test last Tuesday night. Then
yesterday (Saturday) I just ran the engine in my driveway for about an hour,
playing with different settings. This is really when I noticed the engine
running rough on A.
I had recorded some of the values (mode 3/Mode 2) from the May tuning
sessions. I reset mode 3 to that same setting (203) but it made no
difference, engine rough.
I swapped the crank sensor connections (A controller to B cps, and B
controller to A cps), made no different. A was rough and B was smooth as a
baby's behind.
I have an EM2, but as I understand things, the EM2 really can only see
values of the A controller. Even when flipped to B. And there is no way to
back-copy from B to A. It is always A to B. Grrrrr
I also instaled a wideband O2 sensor for the purpose of tuning. That seemed
to work OK, but I never really got a chance to use it.
So... I really need some ideas, suggestions, insights of what to try next.
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