X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3757996 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:57:47 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.122; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090715025711749.SMCW28563@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:57:11 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Intake velocity stack lengths Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:57:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcoE7FSA6jq2Ntm2TX6aSlXPcRnA6AACi4yg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-reply-to: Message-Id: <20090715025711749.SMCW28563@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> Hi Ben, One thing I have learned it that you can not treat your engine as a component of subsystems and expect to get the most out of it. Be prepared to do a lot of research and study if you really want to understand how all the parts make the power production you want. In other words, your power producing system will be no better than its poorest performing part. So if you really want to travel down this road, you will find (in my opinion) quite fascinating - sometimes parts are a bit hard to comprehend (at least for me), but in the end you will have a much better understanding of how each part of the system must perform for the entire system to perform well. Focusing on just one aspect will result in disappointment (in my opinion). To start you on that journey I suggest you brows these websites which are just a few of the hundreds you can probably find on the internet. http://www.grapeaperacing.com/tech/inductionsystems.pdf http://home.earthlink.net/~redcat/pulse_ram/theory.html http://www.spiralmax.com/userscorner/aftvt.pdf http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~shih/eml4421/student%20presentation%20EML%204421/man ifold%20tuning.pdf http://vmaxoutlaw.com/tech/exhaust.htm Since there is only a limited amount we can do to the engine (and keep it reliable for aircraft use), most of the gain will come in what we do with the induction and exhaust systems (again in my opinion). Good luck. Ed Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ben Schneider Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:33 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Intake velocity stack lengths Fellows, I have been thinking up this crazy idea of trying to make intake runner tubes out of carbon fiber. My question is regarding length of the velocity stack. Does the length make a difference? Could a velocity stack be more or less the entire length of the tube? Meaning, if I have a 12" intake tube, could the entire length of the tube be a gradual taper to the diameter of the block opening? Would that mess with the speed the air is traveling in the tube? Aerodynamics is not something I have a very good handle on, and am hoping someone out there in Fly Rotary land can shed some light. Toughts??? BTW, Any reasons why carbon fiber should not be used for intake tubes? May make the velocity tubes a mute point. Thanks for any thoughts. Ben Schneider P.S. Any Fly Rotary fellows going to OSH??? Perhaps a lunch one day or something. -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com