X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3736095 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:15:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.122; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090629121422909.UBXT19511@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:14:22 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 programing problems. Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:14:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9F891.9FD65520" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acn4aRvkxDyivTzBSma0j+EoiFGrhQAQpBZw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20090629121422909.UBXT19511@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9F891.9FD65520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee Whiz, Dennis, I'm thinking about the thunderstorm that popped up while we were there and what the hailstones did to your heavy gauge metal roof. Hate to even think about what it would have done to 0.016 on the control surfaces or heck even the 0.025 wing skins. Yes, I think at least part of the problem is that the EC2 is so feature rich that you can get to running around inside some of these features and lose track of the fundamentals. So far, the only mode I have program is the ignition advance and the fuel map - but then I do have same size injectors at every port, so no real need for the other modes, no EM2 - so no autotune to mess with. Hang in there guys, go back to the basics, set your controller back to Tracy's default - a good place to start and then work it from there. I know easy for me to say and I have been flying with the EC2 for over 8 years. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:24 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 programing problems. I replaced the small red Renesis injectors with the larger blue injectors. After adjusting the Mode 6 injector size and Mode 3 I got the engine to run but not well. I than reset the MP to factory settings and reset Mode 6 and 3. I did this on both A and B. The engine runs great and with a little Mode 9 Auto Tune I should be ready to fly again. Very easy tuning if you go Mode 6-3-2-1 in that order. Bill Schertz -Thanks for sharing the information on the tack RPM doubling because of noise on the line when the primaries are turned off - I've had the same problem - some day I'll rerout my primary injector leads to see if that cures the problem. We had a BIG hail strom two weeks after the Rotary fly-in. My hanger roof got dented enough that my insurance will replace it! Than the weather turned HOT. We see 107 -109 every afternoon. Next week it is supposed to be more normal - mid to high 90's. Dennis H. Bill Eslick wrote: I have been watching all this EC2 problem solving going on for some time now. Maybe I was just lucky, but I certainly don't remember having near the problems that seem to be plaguing builders now. Or is it just that those who don't have problems don't post? For me, it wasn't quite plug and play, but it was darn close. Following the manual exactly is almost mandatory. I had to read and re-read sections until it became clear in my mind what was going to happen. Generally, if you call Tracy, he will point out some sentence in the manual that you have glossed over. Sorry if this looks like a rant, but just wanted to point out that not everyone has problems with the EC2. Bill Eslick 610 hours 13B NA RD-1(#1) EC-2 As has been pointed out, the EC2 is not a plug and play device and does take some degree of ghostbusters poltergeist work to chase the gremlins down. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9F891.9FD65520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gee Whiz, Dennis,  I’m = thinking about the thunderstorm that popped up while we were there and what the hailstones did to your heavy gauge metal roof.  Hate to even think = about what it would have done to 0.016 on the control surfaces or heck even = the 0.025 wing skins.

 

Yes, I think at least part of the = problem is that the EC2 is so feature rich that you can get to running around = inside some of these features and lose track of the = fundamentals.

 

So far, the only mode I have = program is the ignition advance and the fuel map – but then I do have same size injectors at every port, so no real need for the other modes, no EM2 = – so no autotune to mess with.

 

Hang in there guys, go back to the = basics, set your controller back to Tracy’s default – a good place = to start and then work it from there.  I know easy for me to say and I have = been flying with the EC2 for over 8 years.

 

Ed

 

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah
Sent: Sunday, June 28, = 2009 11:24 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = EC-2 programing problems.

 

I replaced the small red Renesis injectors = with the larger blue injectors.  After adjusting the Mode 6 injector size and Mode = 3 I got the engine to run but not well.  I than reset the MP to factory = settings and reset Mode 6 and 3.  I did this on both A and B.   = The engine runs great and with a little Mode 9 Auto Tune I should be ready = to fly again.  Very easy tuning if you go Mode 6-3-2-1 in that order.

Bill Schertz -Thanks for sharing the information on the tack RPM = doubling because of noise on the line when the primaries are turned off - I've = had the same problem - some day I'll rerout my primary injector leads to see if = that cures the problem.

We had a BIG hail strom two weeks after the Rotary fly-in.  My = hanger roof got dented enough that my insurance will replace it!  Than the = weather turned HOT.  We see 107 -109 every afternoon.  Next week it is supposed to be more normal - mid to high 90's.

Dennis H.

Bill Eslick wrote:

I have been watching all this EC2 problem solving going on for some time = now.  Maybe I was just lucky, but I = certainly don't remember having near the problems that seem to be plaguing builders = now.  Or is it just that those who don't have problems don't = post?

For me, it wasn't quite plug and = play, but it was darn close.  Following the manual exactly is almost = mandatory.  I had to read and re-read sections until it became clear in my mind what = was going to happen.  Generally, if you call Tracy, he will point out some = sentence in the manual that you have glossed over.

Sorry if this looks like a rant, but just wanted to point out that not = everyone has problems with the EC2.

Bill Eslick
610 hours  13B  NA  RD-1(#1)  EC-2

=

 As has been pointed out, = the EC2 is not a plug and play device and does take some degree of ghostbusters poltergeist = work to chase the gremlins down.

 



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