X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3734056 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:38:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.123; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [192.168.0.19] (really [66.57.38.121]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090626213726855.ZRYM20969@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:37:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4A453FB4.2040805@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:37:56 -0400 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: AeroElectric-List: Complex aircraft NTSB report References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Winberry wrote: > Well, weight and balance, And the plane flew from Florida to Myrtle Beach that way. W&B didn't cause the accident. > removal of 2 out of 4 props, I was at the airport the other day. I seem to remember a lot of planes with only 2 props. Are they all in danger of taking a dirt bath? > just the general > attitude towards compliance. ...has absolutely no effect on the physics of keeping an airplane airborne. > Fudging an hour or two to get to OSH is one > thing. If he'd had a lot of high performance time, some shortcuts might not > raise as many questions, but 200 hours in a Cherokee? What would more high performance time have done to improve the pilot's situation? All we have is speculation and innuendo. The pilot could have just as likely died of a heart attack. A bird could have come through the window, through his left eye, and out the back of his head. He could have had a bad reaction to the ibuprofen. There could have been water in his fuel. A water hose could have burst due to a manufacturing defect. He could have had a bad itch on the bottom of his foot, and nosed the plane into the ground while reaching to scratch it. > I thought the battery > was determined to be the cause of the accident. I know it's not spelled out > here, perhaps I heard/read about it somewhere else. Didn't John Denver meet > a similar fate? Something about using vise grips on a fuel selector valve? > Vice-grips make a very effective valve handle. That is why you see it employed so often. What I've read suggests that John's fate was sealed by flying low on a nearly empty tank with a tank selection valve that was located in a hard to reach place. Whether the handle was a pair of vice-grips or gold plated unobtanium was superfluous. > This guy overloaded himself, and sometimes "not following procedure" is the > cause of an accident. > Possibly. But you couldn't peg non-compliance as the fault using this report. All you can do is speculate and say, "He is a baaaad man. Shame. Shame on the non-compliant." > BTW, Good decision Chris M. on figuring your engine problem out after the > move to NC. > > -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org