X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.241.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3733218 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:20:21 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.40; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090626031946.ONUD25927.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:19:46 -0400 Received: from wills ([68.105.87.229]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 8TKj1c00C4wtUdQ03TKlXM; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:19:45 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Mf1v_7_OAAAA:8 a=gZhyqzHcuLWj8NVAKhYA:9 a=I0GwsPxoC5TViI5u4noeL3pV6i4A:4 a=YmXGTUmFzpQA:10 a=9Cqm9wzzBxYA:10 a=zgrosXED4AwA:10 a=VgdHWzi9AekA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=GTrsIc97w_QDsYX-HN4A:9 a=nPc6ISfHp3z8vdfk1oIA:7 a=fbaAFMDrHRE3YNyXYZHBFzqd61MA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <608FFDCAA70A4EF1AA4303A1E372792F@wills> From: "Mike Wills" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: <1B.9E.31834.834344A4@mxo5.broadbandsupport.net> Subject: Re: I need help bad!!!! Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:19:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9F5D2.47136340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9F5D2.47136340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What do you mean by, "did all the tuning for the EC2"? Are you saying = that you had a significant amount of successful run time on the engine = with everything working good up til now and this was the first full = power run? Or was this the first start on the engine? I'm with Dave, step back and take a deep breath and check everything = starting with the basics. Is initial engine timing correct? And most importantly, again what Dave said - dont let the time pressure = make you do something stupid. Even the best engineered installations = have the potential for problems. There's a good reason for the 40 hour = phase 1 test period. The best advice I could give at this point is = forget about your planned move. That should have absolutlely no = consideration in working through the inevitable problems that come up = early in your phase 1 testing. I think I can guarantee that once this = problem is behind you it wont be the last. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: candtmallory@cebridge.net=20 To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' ; 'Mike Wills'=20 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: I need help bad!!!! Gents, I am at a total loss! Bruce Terrentine just rebuilt my Renesis, I hooked everything up, = did all the tuning for the EC2, and started the high power runs to get = the one hour max throttle time before the first flight. I'm 35 minutes = into it (5 - 10 min at a time for temperature), and the engine went from = 4860 static RPM at WOT to 4600. At that time, I still had good oil = pressure, fuel pressure and mixture reading was good. I throttled back = to idle and shut it down. As I throttled back, the oil pressure went = from high 60s to 36 and the mixture reading went from 8-9 bars on the = EM2 to 1 bar. After I got out of the plane, my father who was watching = the run, said I had about 8 inches of flames shooting out the exhaust = during the entire high power run. I don't even know where to start, or how to fix this. To add to the problem, I am supposed to move from Leesville, LA to = Fayetteville, NC on 24 July. I really don't want to have to pull the = wings and trailer the plane. My first call was to Tracy, but he is out of touch until the 23rd, = so no help there. Is there anyone with enough experience and time to = help? Anyone close enough to Leesville, LA to make a trip here? Feel free to call 337-208-8053 or email me direct = candtmallory@cebridge.net I'm really desperate! CHris Mallory ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9F5D2.47136340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What do you mean by, "did all the = tuning for the=20 EC2"? Are you saying that you had a significant amount of = successful run=20 time on the engine with everything working good up til now and this = was the=20 first full power run? Or was this the first start on the = engine?
 
I'm with Dave, step back and take a = deep breath and=20 check everything starting with the basics. Is initial engine timing=20 correct?
 
And most importantly, again what Dave = said - dont=20 let the time pressure make you do something stupid. Even the best = engineered=20 installations have the potential for problems. There's a good reason for = the 40=20 hour phase 1 test period. The best advice I could give at this = point is=20 forget about your planned move. That should have absolutlely no = consideration in=20 working through the inevitable problems that come up early in your phase = 1=20 testing. I think I can guarantee that once this problem is behind you it = wont be=20 the last.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 candtmallory@cebridge.net =
To: 'Rotary motors in = aircraft' ; 'Mike = Wills'
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 = 7:36=20 PM
Subject: I need help = bad!!!!


Gents,

 

I am at a total loss!

Bruce Terrentine just rebuilt my Renesis, I hooked everything up, = did all=20 the tuning for the EC2, and started the high power runs to get the = one hour=20 max throttle time before the first flight.  I'm 35 minutes into = it (5 -=20 10 min at a time for temperature), and the engine went from 4860 = static RPM=20 at WOT to 4600.  At that time, I still had good oil pressure, = fuel=20 pressure and mixture reading was good.  I throttled back to = idle and=20 shut it down.  As I throttled back, the oil pressure went from = high 60s=20 to 36 and the mixture reading went from 8-9 bars on the EM2 to 1 = bar. =20 After I got out of the plane, my father who was watching the run, = said I had=20 about 8 inches of flames shooting out the exhaust during the entire = high=20 power run.

I don't even know where to start, or how to fix this.

To add to the problem, I am supposed to move from Leesville, LA = to=20 Fayetteville, NC on 24 July.  I really don't want to have to = pull the=20 wings and trailer the plane.

My first call was to Tracy, but he is out of touch until the = 23rd, so no=20 help there.  Is there anyone with enough experience and time to = help?  Anyone close enough to Leesville, LA to make a trip = here?

Feel free to call 337-208-8053 or email me direct candtmallory@cebridge.net

I'm really desperate!

CHris Mallory


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