X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.219.56.253] (HELO mail.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3733058 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:36:15 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.219.56.253; envelope-from=bhughes@qnsi.net Return-Receipt-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9F5FE.AA093C00" Disposition-Notification-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:37:27 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <74120FDE88CAFE4DBDA8814BCE20A3F315E539@qnsi-mail.qnsi.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Thread-Index: Acn1+UrOKZ++i2RwQ6ODKKjin2vN8gAAgA1A References: From: "Bobby J. Hughes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F5FE.AA093C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That encouraging news. What's the approximant weight of the turbo and extra plumbing? =20 =20 Bobby =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:57 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo I'm on the third turbo right now. The exact numbers are a little hazy without my logs, but the first one (pure stock off the car) lasted about 70 hrs. Flew N/A for about 50 hrs. Second turbo (TO4 hybrid run at peak EGT everywhere I went) lasted about 120 hrs, and now the third one (another TO4 hybrid but I keep EGT (actually TOT) below 900C - about 1600F) has been good for about 170 hrs. (400 total hours on the plane). I have a fresh one sitting in a box ready to install if/when needed. =20 Dave Leonard On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: Dave, =20 I thought your second turbo failed last summer at about 130 hours. Are you on your second or third turbo? =20 Bobby ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Relay Woes =09 =09 Eh, I still need a muffler. I use one and still got a noise complaint on Sunday. But the turbo is holding up so far.. 170 hrs on the latest turbo and still going strong.. =20 Dave Leonard =09 =09 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: =09 Actually I wish you would get the bugs worked out. I might swap out my super charger for a turbo and intercooler and loose the muffler. My muffler is starting to loose "stuff" and make rattling sounds.=20 =20 Bobby ________________________________ =09 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard =09 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:16 PM=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft =09 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Relay Woes =09 =09 Ouch, Alouth that is a lot easier to achieve.... dont even have to try :-) =20 Dave Leonard =09 =09 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: =09 David, =20 By any chance will your smoke system connected to your turbo :) =20 Bobby ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:34 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Relay Woes =09 =09 For you EE types, I have a question. I am installing a smoke system and wanted to use a relay to control the pump. I bought this relay from Mouser that I thought would do the trick: =09 =09 http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=3DsGAEpiMZZMtLEhJ5P%2f= N sZ6bnrz6%2f%252b%252bJvA50eSiydqPQ%3d =09 The problem is that if there is any load (like the pump or even the 0.02A indicator LED I installed, then the relay will not turn off when I turn off the signal voltage. So either I do not understand how to use the relay, or I chose the wrong relay. I have checked my wiring in-so-much as to confirm that the signal voltage does turn on and off with the switch, voltage across the 'LOAD" terminals does disappear when there is no load but not when there is a load (current). =20 =09 Is it possibly because this relay is designed for an AC load? Other suggestions? =09 --=20 David Leonard =09 Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net =20 http://RotaryRoster.net =20 =09 --=20 David Leonard =09 Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net =20 http://RotaryRoster.net =20 =09 --=20 David Leonard =09 Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net =20 http://RotaryRoster.net =20 =09 --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F5FE.AA093C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That encouraging news. What's the appro= ximant weight of the turbo and extra p= lumbing? 
 
Bobby
 
 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David=20 Leonard
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:57 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Turbo

I'm on the third turbo right now.  The exact numbers are a = little hazy=20 without my logs, but the first one (pure stock off the car) lasted = about 70=20 hrs.  Flew N/A for about 50 hrs.  Second turbo (TO4 hybrid run = at peak=20 EGT everywhere I went) lasted about 120 hrs, and now the third one = (another=20 TO4 hybrid but I keep EGT (actually TOT) below 900C - = about=20 1600F) has been good for about 170 hrs.  (400 total hours on = the=20 plane).  I have a fresh one sitting in a box ready to install = if/when=20 needed.
 
Dave Leonard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Bobby J. = Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net>=20 wrote:
Dave,
 
I thought=20 your second turbo failed last summer at about 130 hours. Are you on = your=20 second or third turbo?
 
Bobby

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = David=20 Leonard
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:27 = PM
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Relay=20 Woes

Eh, I still need a muffler.  I use one and = still got a=20 noise complaint on Sunday.  But the turbo is holding up so = far.. =20 170 hrs on the latest turbo and still going strong..
 
Dave Leonard

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Bobby J. = Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net> wrote:
Actually=20 I wish you would get the bugs worked out. I might swap out my super = charger=20 for a turbo and intercooler and loose the muffler. My muffler = is=20 starting to loose "stuff" and make rattling sounds. =
 
Bobby

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = David=20 Leonard
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:16 PM=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Relay Woes

Ouch,  Alouth that is a lot easier to achieve....  = dont even=20 have to try  :-)
 
Dave Leonard

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Bobby J. = Hughes=20 <bhughes@qnsi.net> wrote:
David,
 
By any=20 chance will your smoke system connected to your turbo=20 :)
 
Bobby

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = David=20 Leonard
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:34 = AM
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Relay=20 Woes

For you EE types, I have a question.   I am=20 installing a smoke system and wanted to use a relay to control the = pump.  I bought this relay from Mouser that I thought would = do the=20 trick:

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=3DsGAE= piMZZMtLEhJ5P%2fNsZ6bnrz6%2f%252b%252bJvA50eSiydqPQ%3d

The=20 problem is that if there is any load (like the pump or even the = 0.02A=20 indicator LED I installed, then the relay will not turn off when I = turn=20 off the signal voltage.  So either I do not understand how to = use the=20 relay, or I chose the wrong relay.  I have checked my wiring=20 in-so-much as to confirm that the signal voltage does turn on and = off with=20 the switch, voltage across the 'LOAD" terminals does disappear = when there=20 is no load but not when there is a load (current).  =

Is it=20 possibly because this relay is designed for an AC load?  = Other=20 suggestions?

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Turbo Rotary RV-6=20 N4VY
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Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
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