X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3731049 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:20:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.210; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so373517gxk.19 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:20:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jyYgZ56ygmUFKkRwdTiNfY68kFAmaH0I8QRBLJnXiss=; b=xbP3e+X9rvNtcMqYA+gDj7HbOExBurLkCYxkaa6Vg7HVL8hfkwT/cSdN7SD/pKHWyQ YSRSuCPe1pmbV+1YX5NKA5Wj5mVVrgXUeibXBXfD1G2bsJcZsvaxBWEr5R/F8FS0upyg URmTesGLNf9WVsHFQRkPCm3VqfK04xf79H0hE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WiNfF8RlnXxk+GpHLxtNaAvmV3d9yfw4//wMAaJauklAxRaYKlYJ6NU1w0GRCgyCwo eA4dkWtbmrumfjTyqatSfrhYZXDDA8deEWTRfPW5p3iyky4a3UvfXd7Evt+zfIIn+3nX +Hftxwjdjau++RHF3Y5pl7Odz4c+jGELYqH1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr2866605ybl.1.1245860419275; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:20:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:20:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1c23473f0906240920n5587e3ddn4b9075bc1a85a8dc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Relay Woes From: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f0c88bb0e4e046d1a7bdd --001e680f0c88bb0e4e046d1a7bdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think I may have found the answer on page 10 here (although for a slightly different relay). http://www.components.omron.com/components/web/PDFLIB.nsf/0/77056031AB35222185257201007DD66B/$file/D20G3NA1205.pdf If so, is that diode symbol reversed? wouldn't that cause a short to ground? Or do I need to install my pump so that the relay completes the circuit to ground? Aaah, yes, thats it... will require an extra wire out to the pump (located in wing). Still I dont really get it. Dave Leonard On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:34 AM, David Leonard wrote: > For you EE types, I have a question. I am installing a smoke system and > wanted to use a relay to control the pump. I bought this relay from Mouser > that I thought would do the trick: > > > http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtLEhJ5P%2fNsZ6bnrz6%2f%252b%252bJvA50eSiydqPQ%3d > > The problem is that if there is any load (like the pump or even the 0.02A > indicator LED I installed, then the relay will not turn off when I turn off > the signal voltage. So either I do not understand how to use the relay, or > I chose the wrong relay. I have checked my wiring in-so-much as to confirm > that the signal voltage does turn on and off with the switch, voltage across > the 'LOAD" terminals does disappear when there is no load but not when there > is a load (current). > > Is it possibly because this relay is designed for an AC load? Other > suggestions? > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net --001e680f0c88bb0e4e046d1a7bdd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I may have found the answer on page 10 here (although for a slightl= y different relay).

http://www.components.omron.com/components/web/PDFLIB.nsf/0/77056031AB3= 5222185257201007DD66B/$file/D20G3NA1205.pdf

If so, is that diode symbol reversed?=A0 wouldn't that cause a shor= t to ground? Or do I need to install my pump so that the relay completes th= e circuit to ground?=A0 Aaah, yes, thats it... will require an extra wire o= ut to the pump (located in wing).=A0 Still I dont really get it.

Dave Leonard

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at = 8:34 AM, David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com> wrote:
For you EE types, I have a question.=A0=A0 I am instal= ling a smoke system and wanted to use a relay to control the pump.=A0 I bou= ght this relay from Mouser that I thought would do the trick:

http://w= ww.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=3DsGAEpiMZZMtLEhJ5P%2fNsZ6bnrz6%= 2f%252b%252bJvA50eSiydqPQ%3d

The problem is that if there is any load (like the pump or even the 0.0= 2A indicator LED I installed, then the relay will not turn off when I turn = off the signal voltage.=A0 So either I do not understand how to use the rel= ay, or I chose the wrong relay.=A0 I have checked my wiring in-so-much as t= o confirm that the signal voltage does turn on and off with the switch, vol= tage across the 'LOAD" terminals does disappear when there is no l= oad but not when there is a load (current).=A0

Is it possibly because this relay is designed for an AC load?=A0 Other = suggestions?

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