X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from poplet2.per.eftel.com ([203.24.100.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3730355 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:40:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.24.100.45; envelope-from=lendich@aanet.com.au Received: from sv1-1.aanet.com.au (sv1-1.per.aanet.com.au [203.24.100.68]) by poplet2.per.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85811737D7 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:39:26 +0800 (WST) Received: from ownerf1fc517b8 (203.171.92.134.static.rev.aanet.com.au [203.171.92.134]) by sv1-1.aanet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id E57491153880 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:39:24 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <7A1ACABBEFAA4633AEC3952124C10BB9@ownerf1fc517b8> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 295cc vs 495 cc Renesis Test[FlyRotary] Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:39:27 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090623-0, 06/23/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Dennis, I thought the 495cc injectors were Blue and the yellow were 380 cc? If your running your experiment with the Yellow injectors can you give us some feed-back when your done. George ( down under) > I've been following the injector thread for a few days so today I tried an > experiment. I ran my Renisis with stock injectors (295 Pri and 495 Sec) > on the ground to see how it ran with primary or secondary injectors turned > off and how much HP I could generate with the 295 cc primaries. Note - My > fuel pressure is set at 42 psi. > > I found I could run around 140 HP ( HP as shown on the Not Calibrated > EM-2) with the primaries on and the secondaries off. I also found that as > I opened the throttle above the 100 % duty cycle of the primaries the > engine would go lean quite rapidly and quit. If I were in take-off mode at > low altitude and had a secondary injector fail I don't believe I could > diagnose the problem easily and keep the engine running on the > primaries!! > My theory as to why the engien quits is that as I am running only on the > primaries and I advance the throttle beyond the point where the primaries > are at 100% duty cycle the engine starts to go too lean and the RPM's > decrease - This causes the MP to increase because the engine is pumping > less air. As the MP increases the volumn of air in the combustion chamber > increases. You need more fuel to compensate but the injector is already > supplying the maximum fuel it is capable of supplying. The fire goes out > and the engine quits. > I believe to keep the engine running when I have a secondary injector fail > I'd need to throttle back to some where around 18 inches MP before turning > off the secondaries and figuring out the secondaries are bad. If the > engine ran smooth on the primaries I could slowly advance the throttle to > increase HP as long as I did not go too high MP and get into the lean > condition. This is just too much stuff to do at low level just after > take-off!! > > I now plan on replacing the blue 295 CC primary injectors with yellow 495 > CC secondary injectors!! > > Dennis H. > >> > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >