X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.106] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3660081 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:43:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.106; envelope-from=keltro@att.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=att.net; s=dkim01; i=keltro@att.net; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1243871031; h=Content-Type: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=v6sJXc 3Jv2c70o/fUnENsKTN5jmGkmntL8mnoDbWFzE=; b=frtIKOsDV1H8PvJpD4hwGin00 qAGP8QJgUhP10v6r+8LuX/bIWrZ5fh+eGyQkRbUm7j3HASw4c7hZcWfDK7vqg== Received: from fwebmail04.isp.att.net ([204.127.218.104]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090601154315H0600ktd6de>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:43:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.218.104] Received: from [64.250.214.248] by fwebmail04.isp.att.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:43:14 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: Texas Round Up Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Message-Id: <060120091543.13014.4A23F711000CB9D0000032D622216128369B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_13014_1243870994_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_13014_1243870994_0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow Al !!................Scary story with a safe ending..............Your t= emp door looks really good, Like all your work..........Wonder if this has ever happened to any other Veloci= ty ??............Glad to hear both you and a/c are OK.....................=20 Best Regards, Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from "Al Gietzen" : ---= -----------=20 Chris; et. al., Of course I was very disappointed not to make the fly-in, and other stops p= lanned on the trip. But I don=E2=80=99t want anyone to be alarmed =E2=80= =93 I=E2=80=99m fine, and I flew the plane back home today with an improvis= ed door. We were about an hour out, cruising happily along at 9500=E2=80=99 and 170 = KTAS, when suddenly there was a noise and lots of wind blowing and the pilo= t side door was gone. I have no idea why it came unlatched =E2=80=93 I had= a double detent spring which had always kept it solidly in the latched pos= ition. It took only a few moments to determine that the plane was controllable (me= aning the door had departed), and that there was no prop vibration meaning = there was no prop damage. With a few moments to adapt to the new aerodynami= cs; it was a matter of flying to the nearest airport about 10 miles away. = Only when we got there, we found it was a small strip (looked like dirt, al= though I found later it was paved) in the middle of the desert with no stru= ctures of any kind anywhere in sight. Since the plane was flying stably, I= decided to head off to another (L77) about 20 miles away; and made a norma= l landing. No airport facilities other than the strip, but it is right off = I-10, and there was a gas station and a caf=C3=A9. Upon landing we noted that the rear window on the passenger side had a larg= e hole in it. Apparently as the door ripped off it was swung over the top, = and the strake extension slammed into the window; and the door subsequently= bounced clear of prop. The prop had a couple of marks on it apparently mad= e by pieces of the plexiglass from the window. The plane was about 150 miles from home. The initial decision was to come = back with truck and trailer, disassemble, load up and return to the hangar.= But after checking rental rates, and making schedules, and realizing the = implications of over-size load with requirements for pilot vehicles front a= nd back, etc.; I decided to fabricate a temporary door with 5/8=E2=80=9D pl= ywood, with =C2=BC=E2=80=9D plexiglass for a window; and fly the plane back= to the home airport.=20=20 My friend and I went back yesterday, and did just that. It is a shame to m= ess up such a beautiful plane, but I=E2=80=99ll share with you what the tem= p door looked like; perhaps we can find some humor in this otherwise minor = disaster. We removed the weather stripping, and screwed everything solidly= to the door flange. It was solid as a rock and served very well. We also= closed the broken window by bolting on a formica patch. Certainly not the trip we planned; but s__t happens. I=E2=80=99ll start th= inking about repairs in a few days. It will be like new again soon, and wit= h a fool-proof locking latch. Al -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Christopher Barber Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 3:44 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Texas Round Up Just got back from the round up. It was great. 8 flying rotaries in all. = Likely a record. Al G was on his way but had a problem with a door coming open....a very maj= or issue in a Velocity. I heard he is ok, but his plane will need work. I = almost broke down in tears hearing about it. Tracy made it, as well as Ed and most of the Texas Contingent. Lots of con= versation and, not just airplane talk, but rotary airplane talk. I, as well as others, will post pictures when time allows. I had to leave = early (about 4pm) as it was just a quick day trip for me and a couple of bu= ddies, in one of their Bonanza. It was mostly a good day (not the Al thing though). All the best, Chris Barber Houston ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob Perkinson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:15 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Texas Round Up Well I guess that the list is silent because everyone is headed to Texas. = Send Pictures. Bob Perkinson --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_13014_1243870994_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_13014_1243870994_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_13014_1243870994_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow Al !!................Scary story with a safe ending..............Y= our temp door looks really good, Like
all your work..........Wonder if this has ever happened to any other V= elocity ??............Glad to hear
both you and a/c are OK..................... 
 
Best Regards,

Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2= /EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold



 
-------------- Original message from "Al Gietzen" <ALVent= ures@cox.net>: --------------

Chris; et. al.,

 

Of course I was very disappointed not to m= ake the fly-in, and other stops planned on the trip.  But I don=E2=80= =99t want anyone to be alarmed =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m fine, and I flew the p= lane back home today with an improvised door.

 

We were about an hour out, cruising happil= y along at 9500=E2=80=99 and 170 KTAS, when suddenly there was a noise and = lots of wind blowing and the pilot side door was gone.  I have no idea= why it came unlatched =E2=80=93 I had a double detent spring which had alw= ays kept it solidly in the latched position.

 

It took only a few moments to determine th= at the plane was controllable (meaning the door had departed), and that the= re was no prop vibration meaning there was no prop damage. With a few momen= ts to adapt to the new aerodynamics; it was a matter of flying to the neare= st airport about 10 miles away.  Only when we got there, we found it w= as a small strip (looked like dirt, although I found later it was paved) in= the middle of the desert with no structures of any kind anywhere in sight.=   Since the plane was flying stably, I decided to head off to another = (L77) about 20 miles away; and made a normal landing. No airport facilities= other than the strip, but it is right off I-10, and there was a gas statio= n and a caf=C3=A9.

 

Upon landing we noted that the rear window= on the passenger side had a large hole in it. Apparently as the door rippe= d off it was swung over the top, and the strake extension slammed into the = window; and the door subsequently bounced clear of prop. The prop had a cou= ple of marks on it apparently made by pieces of the plexiglass from the win= dow.

 

The plane was about 150 miles from home.&n= bsp; The initial decision was to come back with truck and trailer, disassem= ble, load up and return to the hangar.  But after checking rental rate= s, and making schedules, and realizing the implications of over-size load w= ith requirements for pilot vehicles front and back, etc.; I decided to fabr= icate a temporary door with 5/8=E2=80=9D plywood, with =C2=BC=E2=80=9D plex= iglass for a window; and fly the plane back to the home airport. 

 

My friend and I went back yesterday, and d= id just that.  It is a shame to mess up such a beautiful plane, but I= =E2=80=99ll share with you what the temp door looked like; perhaps we can f= ind some humor in this otherwise minor disaster.  We removed the weath= er stripping, and screwed everything solidly to the door flange.  It w= as solid as a rock and served very well.  We also closed the broken wi= ndow by bolting on a formica patch.

 

Certainly not the trip we planned; but s__= t happens.  I=E2=80=99ll start thinking about repairs in a few days. I= t will be like new again soon, and with a fool-proof locking latch.<= /FONT>

 

Al

 = ;

 = ;

-----Original Mes= sage-----
From: Rotary m= otors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Barber
Sent: Saturday, Ma= y 30, 2009 = 3:44 PM<= FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>
To: Rotary motors= in aircraft
Subject: [F= lyRotary] Re: Texas Round Up

 

Just got back from= the round up.  It was great.  8 flying rotaries in all. Likely a= record.

 

Al G was on his wa= y but had a problem with a door coming open....a very major issue in a Velo= city.  I heard he is ok, but his plane will need work. I almost broke = down in tears hearing about it.

 

Tracy made it, as well as Ed and most of the Texas Contingent.  Lots = of conversation and, not just airplane talk, but rotary airplane talk.

 

I, as well as othe= rs, will post pictures when time allows.  I had to leave early (about = 4pm) as it was just a quick day trip = for me and a couple of buddies, in one of their Bonanza.

<= /DIV>

 

It was mostly=  a good day (not the Al thing though).

 

All the best,

 

Chris Barber

Houston

----- Original Mes= sage -----

<= FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From:<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Bob Perkinson=

Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:15 AM

[FlyRotary] Texas Round Up

 

Well I gues= s that the list is silent because everyone is headed to Texas= .  Send Pictures.

Bob Perkinson

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