Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #46067
From: Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Initial Tuning at Low RPM - surging?
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:07:34 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Mike,
 
 In the early tuning of my EC2 I had issues with surging at a number of throttle settings, all low power settings. Higher power settings didnt show this problem. Problem turned out to be that adjacent addresses in the EC2 MCT had significantly different values stored. If you have 2 adjacent addresses where one is significantly leaner (or richer) than the other then surging is the result.
 
 Think about it. Your throttle setting arbitrarily ends up on an MCT address that is too rich (as an example). As a result the engine bogs a little and RPM and MAP drop a little - just enough to fall into the next lower MCT, which is set closer to a correct value. Engine RPM and MAP pick up a little and push you back up into the next MCT location. Again, too rich, engine bogs, etc....
 
 I suspected that this was happening but did not know for certain because I didnt have anyway to see what was actually loaded in the MCT. When I bought my EC2 and built my panel Tracy's engine monitor didnt exist. By the time the EM came out I didnt have any way to retrofit it into my panel - it wouldnt fit. I ended up buying an EFISM from Ed Anderson. Once I could see what was loaded it was pretty easy to smooth the MCT and this cured all of my engine roughness and surging. It also allowed a much lower idle RPM without any gearbox chatter.
 
 I cant imagine how you could properly tune the EC2 without having either the auto tune function or some way to display the MCT. For my installation the EFISM is an invaluable tool. I would say the same thing about Tracy's monitor but in my case it was much easier to fit the EFISM after the fact.
 
 I'm sure there could be other things that could cause the surging, but in my case, this was the problem. I could have saved myself a lot of hassle had I installed the EFISM sooner.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:44 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Initial Tuning at Low RPM - surging?

I started up the engine tonight, just to be sure it really worked last Tuesday. Started just fine but there was a
kind of surging of the engine at the lowest RPM. If I increased RPM it started to smooth out. Also increasing the mixture
helped a little, but not a lot.

My question is: is this surging at low RPM indicative of something specific (too lean/rich mixture, injectors not
putting out too little/much).  Something like that?  I am just trying to get a feel for any general rule when running in that
manner.  And if there is no consistency, that's good to know as well.

Thanks,

--
Mike

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Mike Fontenot
Apex Consulting & Services LLC
Lakewood, Colorado
303 / 731-6645
mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com
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