X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3633276 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:30:31 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.16; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o0FC1b00A0cZkys511VxK1; Wed, 06 May 2009 01:29:57 +0000 Received: from osd1 ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o1Vv1b00V0dkeQQ3W1Vwy9; Wed, 06 May 2009 01:29:57 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] finetuning2 (slightly off-subject) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:38:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9CDB0.A3D281F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9CDB0.A3D281F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Bob. G. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] finetuning2 (slightly off-subject) Greg, That would be Bob White...................Link below............ Bob White =20 =20 =20 http://roblinstores.com/ -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from "Greg Ward" = : --------------=20 Hey Tracy (and others) Setting up for engine first run dyno (finally). Couple of things. = Is your friend who makes wiring harnesses making them for the = 20B/Lancair combo? Going to test the water and oil systems for = pressure. 30 pounds on water, and 100 pounds on oil? Greg Ward Lancair 20B N178RG making progress...... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:04 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finetuning2 66mm is not oversize so I'm surprised with no increase in power = after 2/3 throttle. Never hesitate to play with the mixture control = when testing. It is the fastest way to educate yourself on the effects = of mixture on performance, fuel burn, EGT curve, etc. You can't hurt a = normally aspirated 13B with mixture (assuming ignition timing in the = ballpark) so there's nothing to loose either. If that top speed was in IAS at 8500 you're not doing too bad = anyway. Trace On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Don Wallker = wrote: Tracy, 66 mm ford mustang throttle body, I believe suggested by you. = To busy flying to notice all the numbers. Mostly concentrating on = flying and temps. Alt 8500 ft, 40 Oat, No idea about manifold pressure. = Mixture set at mid range, but not really looked at. We have had a lot = of weather here the last few days, but is looking better toward the end = of the week. I got the diagram and printed it and realize it is a fix, = not a solution. I'll get to the airport tomorrow and draw a diagram of = my electrical system, with lengths, positioning, etc. I've never tried = running without the main buss off. I'll run it and see if there is a = differance with only the Essential buss on. Thanks for all the = thoughts, all of you. Don -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9CDB0.A3D281F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Thanks=20 Bob.
G.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 = 6:13 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = finetuning2=20 (slightly off-subject)

Greg,
   That would be Bob White...................Link=20 below............
 
Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>=20
=20
 
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Kelly Troyer
"Dyke = Delta"_13B=20 ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold=20



 
--------------=20 Original message from "Greg Ward" <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>: = --------------

Hey Tracy (and = others)
Setting up for engine first run dyno=20 (finally).  Couple of things.  Is your friend who makes = wiring=20 harnesses making them for the 20B/Lancair combo?  Going to test = the=20 water and oil systems for pressure.  30 pounds on water, and = 100 pounds=20 on oil?
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B N178RG making=20 progress......
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tracy Crook
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 = 7:04=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 finetuning2

66mm is not oversize so I'm surprised with no = increase in=20 power after 2/3 throttle.   Never hesitate to play with = the=20 mixture control when testing.  It is the fastest way to = educate=20 yourself on the effects of mixture on performance, fuel burn, EGT = curve,=20 etc.  You can't hurt a normally aspirated 13B with mixture = (assuming=20 ignition timing in the ballpark) so there's nothing to loose=20 either.

If that top speed was in IAS at 8500 you're not = doing too=20 bad anyway.

Trace

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Don = Wallker <drwalker@gbis.com> = wrote:
Tracy,
66=20 mm ford mustang throttle body, I believe suggested by you. =  To busy=20 flying to notice all the numbers.  Mostly concentrating on = flying=20 and temps.  Alt 8500 ft, 40 Oat, No idea about manifold = pressure.=20  Mixture set at mid range, but not really looked at. =  We have=20 had a lot of weather here the last few days, but is looking = better=20 toward the end of the week.  I got the diagram and printed = it and=20 realize it is a fix, not a solution.  I'll get to the = airport=20 tomorrow and draw a diagram of my electrical system, with = lengths,=20 positioning, etc. I've never tried running without the main buss = off.=20  I'll run it and see if there is a differance with only the = Essential buss on.  Thanks for all the thoughts, all of=20 you.

Don

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