X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3633257 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:14:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.105; envelope-from=keltro@att.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=att.net; s=dkim01; i=keltro@att.net; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1241572465; h=Content-Type: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=btxy3f OenejBogCZEfAK/ukymhIrtpdwBTjABRbR9oY=; b=RdttH2TqtDE9UcgL2yaDj68MR oHlEyeziPq/ka+E95bPjv8+LXHS8syVcYY21e6komCdpyuQPp0Ckhnwd7NB+A== Received: from fwebmail14.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.114]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090506011350H05007na0ge>; Wed, 6 May 2009 01:13:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.221.114] Received: from [208.114.44.109] by fwebmail14.isp.att.net; Wed, 06 May 2009 01:13:50 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: finetuning2 (slightly off-subject) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 01:13:50 +0000 Message-Id: <050620090113.29422.4A00E44E00005134000072EE22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29422_1241572430_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29422_1241572430_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greg, That would be Bob White...................Link below............ Bob White http://roblinstores.com/ -- Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold -------------- Original message from "Greg Ward" : -------------- Hey Tracy (and others) Setting up for engine first run dyno (finally). Couple of things. Is your friend who makes wiring harnesses making them for the 20B/Lancair combo? Going to test the water and oil systems for pressure. 30 pounds on water, and 100 pounds on oil? Greg Ward Lancair 20B N178RG making progress...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:04 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finetuning2 66mm is not oversize so I'm surprised with no increase in power after 2/3 throttle. Never hesitate to play with the mixture control when testing. It is the fastest way to educate yourself on the effects of mixture on performance, fuel burn, EGT curve, etc. You can't hurt a normally aspirated 13B with mixture (assuming ignition timing in the ballpark) so there's nothing to loose either. If that top speed was in IAS at 8500 you're not doing too bad anyway. Trace On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Don Wallker wrote: Tracy, 66 mm ford mustang throttle body, I believe suggested by you. To busy flying to notice all the numbers. Mostly concentrating on flying and temps. Alt 8500 ft, 40 Oat, No idea about manifold pressure. Mixture set at mid range, but not really looked at. We have had a lot of weather here the last few days, but is looking better toward the end of the week. I got the diagram and printed it and realize it is a fix, not a solution. I'll get to the airport tomorrow and draw a diagram of my electrical system, with lengths, positioning, etc. I've never tried running without the main buss off. I'll run it and see if there is a differance with only the Essential buss on. Thanks for all the thoughts, all of you. Don -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29422_1241572430_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29422_1241572430_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29422_1241572430_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg,
   That would be Bob White...................Link below.....= .......
 
 
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Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d



 
-------------- Original message from "Greg Ward" <gregw@o= nestopdesign.biz>: --------------

Hey Tracy (and others)
Setting up for engine first run dyno (finally).=   Couple of things.  Is your friend who makes wiring harnesses ma= king them for the 20B/Lancair combo?  Going to test the water and oil = systems for pressure.  30 pounds on water, and 100 pounds on oil?
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B N178RG making progress......=
----- Original Message -----
= From: Tracy Crook
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:04 AM<= /DIV>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finetuning2=

66mm is not oversize so I'm surprised with no increase in po= wer after 2/3 throttle.   Never hesitate to play with the mixture= control when testing.  It is the fastest way to educate yourself on t= he effects of mixture on performance, fuel burn, EGT curve, etc.  You = can't hurt a normally aspirated 13B with mixture (assuming ignition timing = in the ballpark) so there's nothing to loose either.

If that top spe= ed was in IAS at 8500 you're not doing too bad anyway.

Trace

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Don Wallker <drwalker@gbis.com&g= t; wrote:
Tracy,
66 mm ford m= ustang throttle body, I believe suggested by you.  To busy flying to n= otice all the numbers.  Mostly concentrating on flying and temps. &nbs= p;Alt 8500 ft, 40 Oat, No idea about manifold pressure.  Mixture set a= t mid range, but not really looked at.  We have had a lot of weather h= ere the last few days, but is looking better toward the end of the week. &n= bsp;I got the diagram and printed it and realize it is a fix, not a solutio= n.  I'll get to the airport tomorrow and draw a diagram of my electric= al system, with lengths, positioning, etc. I've never tried running without= the main buss off.  I'll run it and see if there is a differance with= only the Essential buss on.  Thanks for all the thoughts, all of you.=

Don

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