X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3630747 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 May 2009 17:22:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.245; envelope-from=mikefapex@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c38so2045887ana.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x02Ey6hwAlzgNr7cy326aR70oMUydcI0LpqOvnTurT0=; b=fCAeSPLIqv62/gVFfvnnyoJLfBM/OThSglWHhrVIv4tgke9ISgwn5CHf/kzwZKZsYp iGTGWlHk5KhbbVZDPQPLnAPKbn+orx4giM3SgxnE3pa+fsXakUbIKJ+97OsI8HB0gmfi fV2fn+4gAaAQ8hAHkO38fQ46hvgnbMhnNoMYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=x33rcE1ip5YMk0FOvj9vqK5P6+RUM4a6glXIUwRFI0S2UZHkKbiY38FB54NQ4r4S37 pBHS36bU0WIXfFgzUPgljsP6WJ99cuS/ZBFlYOWAf22rn1WpnE+9Y0nblbuw1Bu2OJZv LAUqagXw5ONGUBmqcMwgJCQ6ndWojUYTPgmOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mikefapex@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.197.7 with SMTP id u7mr11318743anf.108.1241385738233; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 15:22:18 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8c7b41bb683622d1 Message-ID: <3036fbc30905031422p7e43fa36m985c28bdd9ea211d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Initial Engine (not) starting with EC2 - suggestions appreciated! From: Mike Fontenot To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ba1af4e9e7046908a32e --0016e644ba1af4e9e7046908a32e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have just this weekend gotten my rebuilt electrical system to the point of being able to try and start the engine. I thought I would post what is going on so far, and ask for any advice and suggestions about continued debugging. I'm a noob at this so suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance! I have the EC2 + EM 2 system, on a GEO 1.3 liter 4 cylinder engine. The electrical system is a 'Z-19', (a la Aeroelectric Connection). The brand new engine was last started in July 2007 and run for about 1 hour with the EC2/EM2 to a maximum RPM of about 3200, but with different coils. The igniter/coil combination burned out, thus leading to the electrical system redesign. The entire electrical system has been replaced with the Z19. Here is what I have so far: 5/2/2009- EC2 Diagnostic checks: EC2 relay check for A & B controller - OK Injector test - OK Coil test - OK EC2 Knob checks (Hex readout) - OK 5/3/2009 Crank Sensor test - OK Fuel pressure - FP 1 brings pressure to 43 psi. FP 1 + 2 raises pressure to 46 psi. Sound of FP 1 is a steady whine. Sound of FP 2 is kind of up and down, but pressure remains at 43 without variation. The two fuel pumps are purchased from Tracy/RWS. When attempting to start a small amount of blue smoke is seen from the muffler. Not much. A few times it sounded like it almost started, but did not. That is the exception. For the majority of attempts to start, the starter motor turns the prop over and the engine coughs but does not start. Thanks! -- Mike ================================ Mike Fontenot Apex Consulting & Services LLC Lakewood, Colorado 303 / 731-6645 mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com ================================ --0016e644ba1af4e9e7046908a32e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just this weekend gotten my rebuilt electrical system to the point o= f being able to try and start the engine. I thought I would post what is go= ing on so far, and ask for any advice and suggestions about continued debug= ging. I'm a noob at this so suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in adva= nce!

I have the EC2 + EM 2 system, on a GEO 1.3 liter 4 cylinder engine. The= electrical system is a 'Z-19', (a la Aeroelectric Connection).=A0 = The brand new engine was last started in July 2007 and run for about 1 hour= with the EC2/EM2 to a maximum RPM of about 3200, but with different coils.= The igniter/coil combination burned out, thus leading to the electrical sy= stem redesign. The entire electrical system has been replaced with the Z19.=

Here is what I have so far:

5/2/2009- EC2 Diagnostic checks:
EC2 relay check for A & B controller - OK
Injector test - OK
Coil test - OK
EC2 Knob checks (Hex readout) - OK

5/3/2009
Crank Sensor test - OK
Fuel pressure - FP 1 brings pressure to 43 psi. FP 1 + 2 raises pressure to 46 psi. Sound of FP 1 is a steady whine. Sound of FP 2 is kind of up and down, but pressure remains at 43 without variation.=A0 The two fuel pumps a= re purchased from Tracy/RWS.

When attempting to start a small amount of blue smoke is seen from the muffler. Not much. A few times it sounded like it almost started, but did not. That is the exception. For the majority of attempts to start, the starter motor turns the prop over and the engine coughs but does not start.

Thanks!

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Mike

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Mike Fontenot
Apex Consulting & Services LLC
Lakewood, Colora= do
303 / 731-6645
mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com
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