X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.211] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with SMTP id 3630743 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 May 2009 17:13:19 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.211; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 18107 invoked from network); 3 May 2009 21:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.7?) (ceengland@68.19.128.105 with plain) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2009 21:12:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: rrmeoNkVM1lGAvLwu0j9400T2craqqtUeg1zCH3jz8v6Xlg8nAos2Kta5kqCr_TJ6z8v4V91TBJEtUa.fhC7Hr5QTRv27JYK._qL79pdZ5FVsPAKmtjkdpK2p6mvOwYlDKIZqw_HU4Xi.GsEmrr3vKRwbuCqjY9swEfWG2w2.SyZHIovEb8rCqCDUvSzwWflkVNIpYgZAxaTxoV7QT4xsEIaSMHUeTfoLH6f1Vjhy6rwpAHu9RDcezTTVFsEEyDlk_Vp0KKQHBF0PLA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49FE08C8.7030800@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 16:12:40 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] prop? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bryan Winberry wrote: > > I’m a novice when it comes to props. So, could I get some advice about > the following prop that a guy has for sale. > > I have a Renesis with the RD-1C (RV 7). Plan on using the rotary cowl. > > The prop is question is a 3-blade MT. Model MTV 7-C-187-139. that’s > 73” diameter, electrically adjustable. > > Firstly, the bolts are 7/16 and the PSRU is 3/8^th . Would there be a > problem opening the holes? > > Secondly, the website (MT) indicates that 160 is max HP for the prop, > but it also says that 175 is max diameter. This one is 187cm (73”). > > I have sent an email to MT regarding this, but want to let it get > kicked around here on the forum. > > Lastly, in the construction manual, Van’s doesn’t recommend aerobatics > with an electrically adjustable prop. > > Thanks in advance for your replies. > > Bryan > Like someone else said, the max hp sounds wrong, especially if it also says a smaller max diameter. Looking at the model #, it seems likely that the '187' in the model number is actually the prop diameter. Also, a 73" diameter 3 blade prop limited to 160 hp would have blades as narrow as toothpicks. Is that the case? Must be specs for a different model prop. Van probably says no acro with electrics because they have much slower response time than hydraulic props. Still not as bad as *no* response time from a fixed pitch, & they do acro all the time. :-) The issue is over-speed if they are in flat pitch going up & can't respond quickly enough to limit rpm going down. The throttle can solve this, just like it would with a fixed pitch prop; just extra work load for the pilot. A more significant question is whether MT approves it for acro. Charlie