X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f136.google.com ([209.85.221.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3610227 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:07:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.136; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qyk42 with SMTP id 42so2208505qyk.7 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:06:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eLmDUIxTHWmm6eK+1XI2S/O1K7zHu9yEK91O+bhQHh0=; b=U0ivaE9VV8DxECmL6lA42326plCitmcd2t1ApBIzX/u2K8GUCWE3ggKkj7GqMJ1Ab7 slMk+xCd9EEn+ZuJPmUp3UfyL70yAnSzep90BzXzJKmiWWC3Jh3GcQIwnbfn6lqSkYaM WRTleDn44+8z5CpNGw9wcLd75OF3BSpP2vmPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bJGcZZfHFlVg7276FRZA3BlxOBybhPIR/rvqcVdHdA3ohAy9mo8OfHjj/tglflJUyd oJmH9DJ6AtmEaTQefRSX/ifNJQpkGmJJztoejmYNiPWK2MWQivDHSBdtOnJKiGh+RvFj HBPgBZKVw5u55pJlXjcP3gQh6an25/2mMH4Ik= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.67.133 with SMTP id r5mr265146qai.285.1241006489460; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:01:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:01:29 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e6643d4f0a54e8e4 Message-ID: <1b4b137c0904290501h596598efj7d3309a7cbb6206b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: NOT MODE 1 was RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and stop - Mode switch position? From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cf7fcf7e2d40468b056e2 --0015175cf7fcf7e2d40468b056e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because of this pitfall, a recent change to the EC2/3 code disables the injector test in mode 1 unless the Cold Start switch is on. This had the effect of ending the problem of accidental flooding but starting the complaints of "My injector test mode doesn't work". ;-) Tracy On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Bill Schertz wrote: > During ground testing/tuning, I had the engine stall and stop when I was > doing some tuning. Didn't remember that it was in mode 1, pushed the butt= on > to prime and heard the injectors firing like crazy. > > Realized that I had 'massively' flooded the engine, so I put it back in t= he > hanger, removed a sparkplug from each rotor, ( I am not plugs up), and > cranked the engine -- then squirted some oil in each rotor and turned it > over a few times to make sure the apex seals were lubed, and let it sit > until the next day. > > Keep it in mode 0 unless you are doing something specific requiring other > modes! > Bill Schertz > KIS Cruiser #4045 > N343BS > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ed Anderson > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:09 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] NOT MODE 1 was RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and > stop - Mode switch position? > > I=92ll add a bit to Dave=92s comment- DON=94T prime your engine in MODE = 1!!! > > > > > > With the engine off and mode 1 selected, pushing the program button tur= ns > on the injector simulation function which I guarantee will flood your eng= ine > in a heart beat if your pumps are on =96 don=92t ask me how I know. > > > > One of the good things about my =93Plugs Up=94 engine installation is th= at a > flooded condition is quickly overcome as the gasoline drains out the exha= ust > ports (on the bottom) and the plug chambers never get flooded with > gasoline. However, with a regular engine installation a flooded engine c= an > be an aggravation. > > > > Ed > > > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > > http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *David Leonard > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:10 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and stop - Mode switch position? > > > > dosent matter unless you want to "click prime the engine" in which case i= t > must be in mode 0 to start. General practice to keep it in more zero to > avoid changining something on accident. > > > > Dave Leonard > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Mike Fontenot < > mikef@apexconsultingservices.com> wrote: > > Tracy wrote: Position 0 (zero) is where the Mode switch should be for > starting and > shutdown. > > I am just starting to tune my EC2 system and feel pretty sure I need to > adjust the injector flow (mode 3). Should I always start in Mode Zero, th= en > switch to Mode 3? Or can I start in Mode 3 and begin injector adjustment > right away? > > Thanks, > > -- > Mike > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Mike Fontenot > Apex Consulting & Services LLC > Lakewood, Colorado > 303 / 731-6645 > mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > --0015175cf7fcf7e2d40468b056e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because of this pitfall, a=A0 recent change to the EC2/3 code disables the = injector test in mode 1 unless the Cold Start switch is on.=A0

This= had the effect of ending the problem of accidental flooding but starting t= he complaints of "My injector test mode doesn't work".=A0 ;-)=

Tracy
=A0 =A0

On Wed, Apr 29, 200= 9 at 7:18 AM, Bill Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
During ground testing/tuning, I had th= e engine=20 stall and stop when I was doing some tuning. Didn't remember that it wa= s in mode=20 1, pushed the button to prime and heard the injectors firing like crazy.=20
=A0
Realized that I had 'massively'= ; flooded the engine,=20 so I put it back in the hanger, removed a sparkplug from each rotor, ( I am= not=20 plugs up), and cranked the engine -- then squirted some oil in each rotor a= nd=20 turned it over a few times to make sure the apex seals were lubed, and let = it=20 sit until the next day.
=A0
Keep it in mode 0 unless you are doing= something=20 specific requiring other modes!
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:09=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] NOT MODE 1 wa= s RE:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and stop - Mode switch position?

I=92ll add a bit to=20 Dave=92s comment- DON=94T prime your engine in MODE 1!!!=20

=A0

=A0

=A0With the engine=20 off and mode 1 selected, pushing the program button =A0turns on the=20 injector simulation function which I guarantee will flood your engine in = a=20 heart beat if your pumps are on =96 don=92t ask me how I=20 know.

=A0

=A0One of the good=20 things about my =93Plugs Up=94 engine installation is that a flooded cond= ition is=20 quickly overcome as the gasoline drains out the exhaust ports (on the bot= tom)=20 and the plug chambers never get flooded with gasoline.=A0 However, with a= =20 regular engine installation a flooded engine can be an=20 aggravation.

=A0

Ed

=A0

From:= =20 Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:= flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On= =20 Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:10=20 AM
To: Rotary motors = in aircraft
Subject: [F= lyRotary] Re: EC2 start and=20 stop - Mode switch position?

=A0

dosent matter=A0unless you want to "click prime the=20 engine" in which case it must be in mode 0 to start.=A0 General prac= tice to=20 keep it in more zero to avoid changining something on=20 accident.

=A0

Dave=20 Leonard

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Mike Fontenot <mikef@apexconsultingserv= ices.com>=20 wrote:

Tracy=20 wrote:=A0 Position 0 (zero) is where the Mode switch should be for starti= ng=20 and
shutdown.

I am just starting to tune my EC2 system and feel= =20 pretty sure I need to adjust the injector flow (mode 3). Should I always = start=20 in Mode Zero, then switch to Mode 3?=A0 Or can I start in Mode 3 and begi= n=20 injector adjustment right away?

Thanks,

--=20
Mike

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Mike Fontenot
Apex Consulting & S= ervices=20 LLC
Lakewood,=20 Colorado
303 /=20 731-6645
mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT=20 com
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--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6=20 N4VY
http:/= /N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net


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