X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.211] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3610161 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:18:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.27.211; envelope-from=wschertz@comcast.net Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lPHc1b00A1GXsucABPJKUe; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:18:19 +0000 Received: from WschertzPC ([71.57.77.95]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lPJH1b00H23NHuF8TPJJSJ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:18:19 +0000 Message-ID: <50EA7531DB2248099D882E86F5CAA2E4@WschertzPC> From: "Bill Schertz" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] NOT MODE 1 was RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and stop - Mode switch position? Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:18:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9C892.481B9F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9C892.481B9F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During ground testing/tuning, I had the engine stall and stop when I was = doing some tuning. Didn't remember that it was in mode 1, pushed the = button to prime and heard the injectors firing like crazy.=20 Realized that I had 'massively' flooded the engine, so I put it back in = the hanger, removed a sparkplug from each rotor, ( I am not plugs up), = and cranked the engine -- then squirted some oil in each rotor and = turned it over a few times to make sure the apex seals were lubed, and = let it sit until the next day. Keep it in mode 0 unless you are doing something specific requiring = other modes! Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:09 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] NOT MODE 1 was RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and = stop - Mode switch position? I'll add a bit to Dave's comment- DON"T prime your engine in MODE 1!!! = =20 =20 With the engine off and mode 1 selected, pushing the program button = turns on the injector simulation function which I guarantee will flood = your engine in a heart beat if your pumps are on - don't ask me how I = know. =20 One of the good things about my "Plugs Up" engine installation is = that a flooded condition is quickly overcome as the gasoline drains out = the exhaust ports (on the bottom) and the plug chambers never get = flooded with gasoline. However, with a regular engine installation a = flooded engine can be an aggravation. =20 Ed =20 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:10 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and stop - Mode switch position? =20 dosent matter unless you want to "click prime the engine" in which = case it must be in mode 0 to start. General practice to keep it in more = zero to avoid changining something on accident. =20 Dave Leonard On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Mike Fontenot = wrote: Tracy wrote: Position 0 (zero) is where the Mode switch should be for = starting and shutdown. I am just starting to tune my EC2 system and feel pretty sure I need = to adjust the injector flow (mode 3). Should I always start in Mode = Zero, then switch to Mode 3? Or can I start in Mode 3 and begin = injector adjustment right away? Thanks, --=20 Mike = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mike Fontenot Apex Consulting & Services LLC Lakewood, Colorado 303 / 731-6645 mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT com = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9C892.481B9F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
During ground testing/tuning, I had the = engine=20 stall and stop when I was doing some tuning. Didn't remember that it was = in mode=20 1, pushed the button to prime and heard the injectors firing like crazy. =
 
Realized that I had 'massively' flooded = the engine,=20 so I put it back in the hanger, removed a sparkplug from each rotor, ( I = am not=20 plugs up), and cranked the engine -- then squirted some oil in each = rotor and=20 turned it over a few times to make sure the apex seals were lubed, and = let it=20 sit until the next day.
 
Keep it in mode 0 unless you are doing = something=20 specific requiring other modes!
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 = 5:09=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] NOT MODE 1 = was RE:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 start and stop - Mode switch position?

I=92ll add = a bit to=20 Dave=92s comment- DON=94T prime your engine in MODE 1!!!=20

 

 

 With = the engine=20 off and mode 1 selected, pushing the program button  turns on the = injector simulation function which I guarantee will flood your engine = in a=20 heart beat if your pumps are on =96 don=92t ask me how I=20 know.

 

 One = of the good=20 things about my =93Plugs Up=94 engine installation is that a flooded = condition is=20 quickly overcome as the gasoline drains out the exhaust ports (on the = bottom)=20 and the plug chambers never get flooded with gasoline.  However, = with a=20 regular engine installation a flooded engine can be an=20 aggravation.

 

Ed

 

Ed=20 Anderson

Rv-6A = N494BW Rotary=20 Powered

Matthews,=20 NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com

http://www.andersonee.com

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html

http://www.flyrotary.com/

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

http://www.r= otaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 = 12:10=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 = start and=20 stop - Mode switch position?

 

dosent matter unless you want to "click = prime the=20 engine" in which case it must be in mode 0 to start.  General = practice to=20 keep it in more zero to avoid changining something on=20 accident.

 

Dave=20 Leonard

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Mike = Fontenot <mikef@apexconsultingserv= ices.com>=20 wrote:

Tracy=20 wrote:  Position 0 (zero) is where the Mode switch should be for = starting=20 and
shutdown.

I am just starting to tune my EC2 system and = feel=20 pretty sure I need to adjust the injector flow (mode 3). Should I = always start=20 in Mode Zero, then switch to Mode 3?  Or can I start in Mode 3 = and begin=20 injector adjustment right away?

Thanks,

--=20 =
Mike

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Mike Fontenot
Apex Consulting & = Services=20 LLC
Lakewood,=20 Colorado
303 /=20 731-6645
mikef AT apexconsultingservices DOT=20 = com
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David Leonard

Turbo Rotary = RV-6=20 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net

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