X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp117.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([66.196.96.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with SMTP id 3598935 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:09:08 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.196.96.90; envelope-from=bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 77557 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2009 02:08:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acer7fbfa7e2f7) (bryanwinberry@68.215.143.58 with login) by smtp117.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2009 02:08:33 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qWVsN64VM1mq4Rk_tRr8RzUxY.ntm8YfPR.P9M4Nawboj8t0GOVX9ziGZrh.C0w40mErOKvRk9CCzm._YwohJTrgTUMLZKyI6P4VBpsVJP9EeGTZgPuDr7nL6R0binsvbEWWhmOlW6LJl6E6hMvJd4tB7x83hnFACS5QktgmY2y4e_T4eymc2Tdy.ndKHN9_743BJLC2vsnQoss4LI3kT4xXA5okVP24Vw7dGB547BNgyw5YWIEyfzM2guudNwbTMn9IvxjEaeO0GtaAvCDTttOYEhzLxyRorpMd19WFgadDYkE6HubBQAyw X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bryan Winberry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Brazing vs Epoxies : [FlyRotary] Re: Epoxies vs welding Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: <7E07E72982BA4C92B881E05F16C1F81E@acer7fbfa7e2f7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnHn3E4jCK959fcRS+ivHjpSuOGuAABiLgw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thanks Ed, I may have to get my welding feet wet with the HTS-2000. Doesn't sound like it would be an expensive experiment. And if I can make it work, I'd save quite a bit of $$. BW Did you have to smooth the inside of your runners? Or a better way of asking is, does this stuff form a bead similar to a weld that needs to be cleaned up for smooth air flow? -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:19 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Brazing vs Epoxies : [FlyRotary] Re: Epoxies vs welding Hi Bryan, Not being a welder, I was searching for some means of securing my tubes to some of the stock manifold castings I had machined for them. JB Weld is great stuff, but I just never felt confident enough in it to hold things like that together. I tried several aluminum brazing rods and really had no success (surely my fault - other's must have), but I found an HTS-2000 supposedly 2nd generation rod and it worked great for me. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:34 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Epoxies vs welding Thanks Al, I was thinking of an application like holding seated runners in the machined manifold. Or possibly joining tubing together. The ability to contour and smooth this product would seem suited here where air flow is an issue. But I don't know if it would stand up to all the rigors (vibration, heat, etc.) Just throwing it out there since JB Weld is smoothing the ports on several intakes out there. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Al Gietzen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:25 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Epoxies vs welding On another note, has anyone contemplated using the two part puttys in areas like intake manifold construction. I saw some in HD that claims good for temps up to 450. I'm hesitant, but this stuff seems to be a cousin to JB Weld. Bryan JB weld ( and similar) is wonderful stuff that adheres to almost anything, and is amazingly strong. So if need things to hold together and make a good seal - great. But if you need real strength, anything that just adheres to the surface is not going to be as strong as a good weld. So consider your application, and what it has to do, and then decide. FWIW, Al G -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html