Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #45802
From: sboese <sboese@uwyo.edu>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 address range issue
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:56:02 -0600
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I agree that being able to view the contents of the mixture correction table is very helpful.  In addition to logging over 20 parameters sent by the EC2, the program that I have on my IPAQ allows me to see the entire table in real time and the changes made to it while performing the tuning process.  It also allows me to save the table and edit it independently of the EC2 and load it back into the EC2.  Any number of these tables can be saved in the IPAQ and reviewed, edited, and/or reloaded as desired.  A poor quality image of an IPAQ screen showing a mixture correction table is attached.  I guess this is a shameless plug to look into getting Ed’s EFISM or Tracy’s EM3.

 

Steve

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike Wills
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:43 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 address range issue

 

My EC2 tuning experience has been similar to yours. I found that mine did not seem to work as Tracy describes in the EC2 manual. Initially my engine never ran in the region where the MCT is RPM driven. My MCT pointer was always MAP driven. I beleive at least in my case that a variety of small issues combined led to this behavior. As i have continued to tweak and refine my installation I find that it operates more like intended.

 

Initially all of my tuning was done based on RPM, MAP, O2, and EGTs. When I designed and built my instrument panel Tracy's EM didnt exist so I dont have one. Tuning it as I did resulted in acceptable engine performance, but I knew it could be better. I installed one of Ed Anderson's EFISM so I could get a look at what was loaded in the MCT. Even though the engine was running OK, I found many instances of large transitions between adjacent locations in the table. Using the EFISM I tweaked the MCT and smoothed all of these transitions. After this I found that the engine would idle more smoothly and at lower RPMs and I was now running in the region where RPM drives the MCT.

 

Another thing I found was the EC2 seems to be sensitive to location of the MAP vacuum sources in the intake manifold. My intake uses an essentially stock Mazda lower casting. There are existing vacuum ports in this casting that I used to plumb the MAP sensors. In my early debugging efforts Tracy suggested moving these taps out toward the plenum. I tried this but there was no noticeable difference so I changed it back.

 

At the advice of a number of users I added some small reservoirs, essentially a vacuum capacitor, to smooth the MAP inputs. This did result in a slight improvement in performance.

 

After all of the MCT tweaking using the EFISM I decided to once again try tapping vacuum at the plenum. This time I did notice a difference with a further improvement at idle settings (smoother and lower RPM). I believe the less than ideal MCT tune that I started with was masking the effect of an improved vacuum source. After the tuning and the relocation of vacuum taps out to the plenum I was able to eliminate the vacuum reservoirs.

 

All of this minor tweaking has resulted in major improvements in engine performance. In my case I dont think it would have been possible to tweak the engine to this state of tune without the EFISM (or an EM). I think some sort of tuning aid that provides a visual reference of what the MCT looks like and what MCT value is being used at any given time is essential. Being able to snag the data and review it after the fact like Steve has done would also be incredibly useful.

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW

 

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