X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net ([206.47.199.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3486847 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:41:25 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.47.199.164; envelope-from=lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca Received: from simip12-ab.srvr.bell.ca ([206.47.199.106]) by simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090210234050.GXIR1652.simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@simip12-ab.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:40:50 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGeTkUmOp0hG/2dsb2JhbADTdYJYgUIG Received: from fctnnbsc14w-142167072070.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net (HELO PCdeRita) ([142.167.72.70]) by simip12-ac.srvr.bell.ca with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 18:40:44 -0500 Message-ID: <51A9D98B9AE94693BB661D9AF809EF1F@PCdeRita> From: "Rino" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: hauling gas Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:40:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 My two cents. The filler neck is grounded to the engine and the front wheel. I always put my extended hand between the filler neck and the fuel can, touching the filler neck first to not produce a spark close to the opening. I do the same when filling the gas can at the service station. Rino ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Gietzen" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: hauling gas > Al Gietzen wrote: >> >> My simple approach is to use a metal chain, which serves as cap retainer, >> which hangs from the metal cap flange into the fuel, back to the cap. >> Contacting the end of the hose to cap/cap flange prior to removal takes > car >> of any residual. Maintaining contact between the hose and the flange >> (keeping the cap chain, or cable, hanging into the fuel) keeps fuel and > hose >> at the same potential. >> >> > Al, you're giving me the heebee-jeebees here. > > The problem is that the can and fuel in the tank may already have a > differential charge built up. Then you may be getting an invisibly > small spark connecting the can to the chain in the tank. The spark > would have to be at just the right place to get a fuel-air mixture to > ignite, so chances of bad things happening are extremely low. But such > an easily remediated exposure. > > Ernest; > > Maybe one of us is missing a step here. I contact can (or hose) to the > cap/flange prior to removing the cap, then maintain contact with the > flange > during fueling (flange connected to the fuel via the chain. I believe > that > takes care of any a priori differential. No? > > Al G > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >