X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.241.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3486092 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:06:57 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.45; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090210170613.SDYA2948.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:06:13 -0500 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.132.77]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id EH6E1b0031gM2g804H6EqF; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:06:14 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UetW9DteTGs0VpaK8rQA:9 a=__D1pz2WfrlRJVJuf1TP_Twvr20A:4 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: hauling gas Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:06:37 -0800 Message-ID: <55DED20F031A4E0E89FF816073D54AFE@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Al Gietzen wrote: > > My simple approach is to use a metal chain, which serves as cap retainer, > which hangs from the metal cap flange into the fuel, back to the cap. > Contacting the end of the hose to cap/cap flange prior to removal takes car > of any residual. Maintaining contact between the hose and the flange > (keeping the cap chain, or cable, hanging into the fuel) keeps fuel and hose > at the same potential. > > Al, you're giving me the heebee-jeebees here. The problem is that the can and fuel in the tank may already have a differential charge built up. Then you may be getting an invisibly small spark connecting the can to the chain in the tank. The spark would have to be at just the right place to get a fuel-air mixture to ignite, so chances of bad things happening are extremely low. But such an easily remediated exposure. Ernest; Maybe one of us is missing a step here. I contact can (or hose) to the cap/flange prior to removing the cap, then maintain contact with the flange during fueling (flange connected to the fuel via the chain. I believe that takes care of any a priori differential. No? Al G