X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3485061 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:28:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.123; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090210022755.HMMB17503.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@computername> for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:27:55 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Fire! Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:27:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C98AFD.45C16130" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcmLJBQnjksHn6yQT6iFNkoenDkzlAAAPz7A In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20090210022755.HMMB17503.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@computername> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C98AFD.45C16130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heart rate? Yes, you could say it got my attention, Al. You are right, I had grounded (touched) the container against the aircraft and was myself leaving against the wing as I was not unaware of the potential hazards. But after 4 decades of pouring fuel from plastic containers - what could go wrong?. But, I do recall that when I attempted to lift the 5 gallon container higher with one hand (about 30 lbs when full) while holding the funnel with the other - that it was a bit of a struggle and I broke contact between the container and the funnel. Immediately the fun began. So now you know why I put up with lead fouled plugs {:>). Thanks, Al. I figure I have just about run through most of the potential problem areas (many that no one else ever seems to encounter {:>)) - think of me as a rotary beta tester (perhaps alpha tester would be closer). I do have a certificate presented to me that is entitled "Lightening strikes, 1, 2, . 6 times (or More) award " enumerating a small section of the "interesting" events that have occurred to me in adapting the rotary to flight. I wish I could say that the list had not grown since I received it from RWS in 2002. However, the number of "events" has easily doubled since then. I do believe I ran afoul of the rotary grimlins at some early point in the endeavor {:>). But, fortunately all have left aircraft and me in one piece (well, I have used up one wheel pant and tire, a few seat cushions and I'm certain a few years off my life span). When being chastized by one of my sisters after one event, I mentioned my "guardian angle" to which she reply - "yes, Ed, but you just remember - she's not getting any younger either!" Ah, nice to hear that. Keep the fire inside the combustion chamber and exhaust guys! Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Al Gietzen Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:05 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fire! Geees! Ed. What a frightening experience. It probably took about 2 days for your heart rate to get back to normal. You broke the rule of hose connected (somehow) to the fuel in the tank Yes; I treat the plastic can just like I would a hose. Spout in contact with the metal flange; flange grounded to the fuel by the cap chain. The fuel trucks have conductors in the hose. So a metal plane connected to the truck connects the fuel to the hose. Al P.S. Ed; please try not to learn any more lessons the hard way:-). Yes, we value your experience, but we value you more! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C98AFD.45C16130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Heart rate?  Yes, you could = say it got my attention, Al.

 

  You are right, I had = grounded (touched) the container against the aircraft and was myself leaving = against the wing as I was not unaware of the potential hazards.  But after 4 = decades of pouring fuel from plastic containers – what could go = wrong?. 

 

But,  I do recall that when I attempted to lift the 5 gallon container higher with one hand (about 30 = lbs when full) while  holding the funnel with the other – that it = was a bit of a struggle and I broke contact between the container and the funnel.  Immediately the fun began.

 

So now you know why I put up with = lead fouled plugs {:>).

 

Thanks, Al.  I figure I have just = about run through most of the potential problem areas (many that no one else ever = seems to encounter {:>)) – think of me as a rotary beta tester = (perhaps alpha tester would be closer). 

I do have a certificate  presented to = me that is entitled   “Lightening strikes, 1, 2, … 6 = times (or More) award “   enumerating a small section of the = “interesting” events that have occurred to me in adapting the rotary to flight.  = I wish I could say that the list had not grown since I received it from RWS in 2002.  However, the number of “events” has easily = doubled since then.  I do believe I ran afoul of the rotary grimlins at = some early point in the endeavor {:>).

But, fortunately all have left aircraft = and me in one piece (well, I have used up one wheel pant and tire, a few seat = cushions and I’m certain a few years off my life span).  When being = chastized by one of my sisters after one event, I mentioned my “guardian = angle” to which she reply – “yes, Ed, but you just remember – = she’s not getting any younger either!”  Ah, nice to hear = that.

Keep the fire inside the combustion = chamber  and exhaust guys!

Ed

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com=

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http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html

http://www.flyrotary.com/

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Monday, February = 09, 2009 9:05 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Fire!

 

Geees! Ed.  What a = frightening experience.  It probably took about 2 days for your heart rate to = get back to normal. You broke the rule of hose connected (somehow) to the fuel in = the tank

 

Yes; I treat the plastic can just = like I would a hose.  Spout in contact with the metal flange; flange = grounded to the fuel by the cap chain.

 

The fuel trucks have conductors = in the hose. So a metal plane connected to the truck connects the fuel to the = hose.

 

Al

 

P.S. Ed; please try not to learn = any more lessons the hard wayJ.  Yes, we value your experience, but we value you = more!

 

 



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