X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3482818 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:44:48 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.146.181; envelope-from=lehanover@gmail.com Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v33so950952wah.3 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:44:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Jmz8XfX8b8Nr8ae4Bn695MCndP+bXPZnfUGtkeYgkcE=; b=LYkoWF5kf0KcpRY45GEV7hSdl1wl4+I49CgCR0VdXHLIYplScTcxvSFeURySzSS0Ls wJ12f2cXwcekpuPjrNw/agtJoCqiIDjglEYj//q0VXDRUATMdbkjbod3771y/wxH57KJ O7WyRmCParC24fEtpa0nr2ATI5hAfvKZ39O0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PSgcvgKXnR5QNkAu6hau1l2UmIInaUaVkMdsg8d7zREhdX9OlKwjbCmnf/5HxV6vkx 6aEcwszwr1O4CoCCCbRKnhUWGil05HNO+jWZshfBpt8qD8muZIEmII+TTPbvS8t4RsP+ hWq3bsJj7+88j9tFTuYF2tWe+QWcMqRWyEvmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.92.2 with SMTP id u2mr2922749wal.228.1234118651613; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:44:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:44:11 -0800 Message-ID: <1ab24f410902081044u39bed1a6m432d7303683157d3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Renesis porting From: Lynn Hanover To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646c5a4d712fa04626ca3e1 --00163646c5a4d712fa04626ca3e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, the people at Racing Beat said that the Renesis is a very different animal than peripherial exhaust port rotaries when it comes to exhaust systems. As I recall, they said they got only about an 8 HP improvement when going from stock (RX-8) exhaust system with cats & the works, to a full race setup with headers, race mufflers, etc. That is TINY in comparison to the earlier engines. In other words, the Renesis is very non-critical when it comes to exhaust systems. Just keep the back pressure down and you'll do pretty well. At least that was my conclusion. Note there is zero overlap in intake / exhaust cycles in the Renesis. BTW I'm still waiting for someone to build & test a peripheral intake port Renesis. I think that would be a great setup for aircraft applications. Tracy Another way of saying that same thing is: The Renesis exhaust ports are so restrictive and so poorly shaped, (to avoid any overlap) and result in an instant 90 degree turn to get out of the iron, that in stock trim a good design exhaust system will go unnoticed. The shared center port complicates things even more. All to keep the tree huggers happy. One wonders what a mildly ported (intake and exhaust) Renesis could do on the dyno. Or, in an airplane. You would want to cut the rotors for 3MM apex seals and springs to go for the periphery port. Lynn E. Hanover --00163646c5a4d712fa04626ca3e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FWIW, the people at Racing Beat said that the Renesis is a very differ= ent animal than peripherial exhaust port rotaries when it comes to exhaust = systems.  As I recall, they said they got only about an 8 HP improveme= nt when going from stock (RX-8) exhaust system with cats & the works, t= o a full race setup with headers, race mufflers, etc.  That is TINY in= comparison to the earlier engines.

 In other words, the Renesis is very non-critical when it comes to= exhaust systems.  Just keep the back pressure down and you'll do = pretty well.  At least that was my conclusion.  Note there is zer= o overlap in intake / exhaust cycles in the Renesis.

BTW I'm still waiting for someone to build & test a peripheral = intake port Renesis.  I think that would be a great setup for aircraft= applications. 

Tracy
 
Another way of saying that same thing is: The Renesis exhaust ports ar= e so restrictive and so poorly shaped, (to avoid any overlap) and result in= an instant 90 degree turn to get out of the iron, that in stock trim a goo= d design exhaust system will go unnoticed. The shared center port complicat= es things even more. All to keep the tree huggers happy.
 
One wonders what a mildly ported (intake and exhaust) Renesis could do= on the dyno. Or, in an airplane.
 
You would want to cut the rotors for 3MM apex seals and springs to go = for the periphery port.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
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