X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3481895 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:18:03 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.17; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D5eR1b00j0vp7WLAA9HW9p; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:17:30 +0000 Received: from ChristopherNB ([98.200.27.148]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D9HU1b0053Bjvle8R9HVxd; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:17:30 +0000 Message-ID: <1BCEC4BF0D714659AA4D0C3193119F37@ChristopherNB> From: "Christopher Barber" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:17:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_5AA5_01C98937.303B77A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_5AA5_01C98937.303B77A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course you should check with your local laws the reality is, unless I = have some other reason to stop you (probable cause....such as rolling = through a stop sign )...and then even more reason to initiate a = search, I would never know. That being said, it amazes me how many = things I can stop folks for....more amazing is how often "turds" all but = scream at the cops "please officer, pull me over" by the = outlandish/illegal cars they drive. One example in Texas is having any = color but white or amber facing forward. These newer led lights that = are popular now do this often....... But as a cop and an attorney, I would never advise you to do anything = knowingly illegal......or, something truly unsafe. All the best, Chris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rob=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Chris, As an officer of the law do you think it would be illegal to transport = gas in a 50 gal square steel tank mounted on a small two wheel 4x4 foot = trailer that is fully enclosed and is properly lighted and licenced ?=20 Thanks for your coment. Robert Robert Bollinger BD-4 with 20B MR722 MUM Fairfield IA 52557 (641)472-7000 ex2068 (641)919-3213 cell rob@mum.edu ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christopher Barber=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Mark, REALLY? No alcohol in fuel in Texas. The pumps from where I get = my gas says that it "may" contain 10% ethanol....is this just there to = cya (I understand cya does not always mean "call your attorney"). I = question it since when the Jeffco failed in my strake it was highly = speculated it was due to ethanol in the fuel. I would like to know that = it is not present as to eliminate it as an issue. I have always gotten = the 87 octane from the station across the street from the airport and I = had no idea it may not be an issue for the GSOT. Hmmmmmmm? OH, btw, I am a cop and while I am sure that I could pull ya over = for the the tanks being transported that way and find a violation (as = damn near everything is illegal these days ), I find it highly = unlikely that I would. There is too much other stuff to stroke someone = for that has a conscious disregard for others safety (yeah, you can say = being a "new Pinto" could classify for that, but again, other stuff = occupies the day.......like felony "fail to signal turn at intersection" = ) Of course, I am in GSOT and not the Peoples Republic of = California....... All the best, Chris Barber Houston, Texas www.LoneStarVelocity.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:29 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Bill,=20 No alcohol in our gas here in Texas. I run nothing but mogas in = my Lancair. Gov. Perry is fighting the feds on this issue and I sure = hope he wins. Another good reason to have a rotary fly-in here, right = Dennis? =20 \\Mark S. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Bill Schertz = wrote: The gendarmes (police) may have a problem with it, but maybe you = don't have far to go. Are you able to get MOgas with no alcohol? Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Well this a Ford, an Escape; hopefully I'll be able to escape = =85 but the Pinto's gas tank was underneath the car, between bumper and = frame =85 people shouldn't tailgate too close when they see 3 gas cans = in their face. Jeff From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:52 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners You need to see if you can find a Ford "Pinto" name badge to = put on it. :>) Bill B=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:45 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners I got tired of smelling and afraid of carrying gas behind the = back seat of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier out of 1 1/4" = pipe and an ATV basket =85 it's not bullet-proof, but if an accident = occurs the gas is better off outside the vehicle than inside. 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Of course you should check with your = local laws the=20 reality is, unless I have some other reason to stop you (probable = cause....such=20 as rolling through a stop sign <g>)...and then even more reason to = initiate a search, I would never know.  That being said, it amazes = me how=20 many things I can stop folks for....more amazing is how often "turds" = all but=20 scream at the cops "please officer, pull me over" by the = outlandish/illegal cars=20 they drive.  One example in Texas is having any color but white or = amber=20 facing forward.  These newer led lights that are popular now do = this=20 often.......
 
But as a cop and an attorney, I would = never advise=20 you to do anything knowingly illegal......or, something truly=20 unsafe.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rob
Sent: Saturday, February 07, = 2009 9:46=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas = Tote for=20 Auto Fuel burners

Chris,
As an officer of the law do you think = it would be=20 illegal to transport gas in a 50 gal square steel tank mounted on a = small two=20 wheel 4x4 foot trailer that is fully enclosed and is properly lighted = and=20 licenced ?
Thanks for your coment.
Robert
 
Robert Bollinger
BD-4 with 20B
MR722 MUM
Fairfield IA 52557
(641)472-7000 = ex2068
(641)919-3213 cell
rob@mum.edu
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christopher Barber =
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Saturday, February 07, = 2009 8:00=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas = Tote for=20 Auto Fuel burners

Mark,
 
REALLY?  No alcohol in fuel in = Texas.  The pumps from where  I get my gas says that it = "may"=20 contain 10% ethanol....is this just there to cya (I understand cya = does not=20 always mean "call your attorney").  I question it since = when the=20 Jeffco failed in my strake it was highly speculated it was due to = ethanol in=20 the fuel.  I would like to know that it is not present as to = eliminate=20 it as an issue.  I have always gotten the 87 octane from the = station=20 across the street from the airport and I had no idea it may not = be an=20 issue for the GSOT. Hmmmmmmm?
 
OH, btw, I am a cop and while I am = sure that I=20 could pull ya over for the the tanks being transported that way and = find a=20 violation (as damn near everything is illegal these days = <sigh>), I=20 find it highly unlikely that I would.  There is too much other = stuff to=20 stroke someone for that has a conscious disregard for others safety = (yeah,=20 you can say being a "new Pinto" could classify for that, but again, = other=20 stuff occupies the day.......like felony "fail to signal turn at=20 intersection" <g>) Of course, I am in GSOT and not the Peoples = Republic of California.......
 
All the best,
 
Chris Barber
Houston, Texas
www.LoneStarVelocity.com
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Mark=20 Steitle
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Saturday, February = 07, 2009=20 5:29 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Gas Tote for=20 Auto Fuel burners

Bill,

No alcohol in our gas here in = Texas.  I=20 run nothing but mogas in my Lancair.   Gov. Perry is fighting = the=20 feds on this issue and I sure hope he wins.  Another good = reason to=20 have a rotary fly-in here, right Dennis? 
\\Mark S.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Bill = Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> = wrote:
The gendarmes (police) may have = a problem=20 with it, but maybe you don't have far to go.  Are you able = to get=20 MOgas with no alcohol?
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Whaley
To:=20 Rotary motors=20 in aircraft Sent:=20 Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners

Well this a Ford, an = Escape;=20 hopefully I'll be able to escape =85 but the Pinto's gas tank = was=20 underneath the car, between bumper and frame =85 people = shouldn't=20 tailgate too close when they see 3 gas cans in their = face.

Jeff

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf = Of=20 Bill Bradburry
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 = 3:52=20 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel = burners

 

You=20 need to see if you can find a Ford "Pinto" name badge to put = on=20 it.   :>)

 

Bill=20 B 

 


From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf = Of=20 Jeff Whaley
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:45 = PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners

I got tired of smelling and afraid of carrying gas behind = the back=20 seat of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier out of =  1=20 1/4" pipe and an ATV basket =85 it's not bullet-proof, but if = an=20 accident occurs the gas is better off outside the vehicle than = inside.

=

Jeff


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