X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao104.cox.net ([68.230.241.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3481715 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:39:29 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.42; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090207193849.FUVQ11567.fed1rmmtao104.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:38:49 -0500 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.137.74]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id D7ep1b0021cVYgg047epHi; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:38:49 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_6oiiBZwXfcA:10 a=O2b_Nj2wQtsA:10 a=452Rd5SUpLj8x_yKkCUA:9 a=TFNPzfQmY4q9zkILeVsA:7 a=OCv2J4W0e8cmUHE9LUME2StYWuEA:4 a=gx5bkW9XiUAA:10 a=Y2VNeNrzAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=HQ31llbKAAAA:8 a=UxdxYGh3JtuCSWlP7bQA:9 a=O-4M7oYhVYhzyM0DQVEA:7 a=3EKlXdnzAfuvgy35WRifGUSktgwA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:39:05 -0800 Message-ID: <00C6C872EAAC456F83FB16073C0904A0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C98918.AE7344A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C98918.AE7344A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners =20 Al, if the law says "5-gallon containers" get a different size. I = actually use 6 gallon containers. Ben =20 Ben, Charlie, Mike; =20 Good idea =96 but guess what. 6-gal gas containers are against the law = in California; so they=92re not sold here, and if you order from somewhere = else, they won=92t ship them here. Not like there would be any chance of = getting the required =93written permission=94 from the airport director. =20 If the airport has taken=20 Federal funds in the past, I'm pretty sure that they cannot legally=20 prevent you from fueling your own plane. =20 Charlie: =20 Might be interesting to chat with some expert, but they probably can restrict the use of 5-gallon containers, and they probably can require written permission for the airport director. It=92s probably time to = carry out my 2-year old plan of a 50-70 gal transfer tank with 12v pump in the back of my van. Then get the written permission. Just procrastinating = on spending the $350 or more that it would take. I=92m thinking of checking = the local truck salvage for a saddle tank about the right size. =20 Why the move to French Valley? That airport has never felt particularly = user friendly the times I've flown into it. Your comments do nothing to = change my opinion. =20 The hangar I was in at Ramona changed ownership, and the new owner wants = all the space for his own toys. There were no others available at Ramona, = and hangars at French Valley are nicer, less expensive, and an easier drive = from where I live (although still too far, 33 mi.). =20 =20 But fly on up and we=92ll have lunch at the nice caf=E9 there. Ramona = had no place to eat at the airport. Other then the over-regulation, I=92ve = found the actual people around the airport very friendly. There is an RV8 right = next door, another Velocity one hangar over, and a Lancair across the way. = They probably need to do more runway sweeping though; after my first flight = out of there the tip of one of the prop blades was smashed like it had = picked up something about =BE=94 in size and heavy enough rip up the last inch of = the fiberglass on the Catto prop. That=92s a more likely issue with the = prop in back =96 the nose wheel kicks something up and it hits the prop. =20 Al =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C98918.AE7344A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners

 

Al, if the law says "5-gallon containers" get a different size. I actually use 6 gallon containers.

Ben

 

Ben, Charlie, = Mike;

 

Good idea – but guess = what.=A0 6-gal gas containers are against the law in California; so they’re not sold here, and if you order from somewhere else, they won’t = ship them here.=A0 Not like there would be any chance of getting the required = “written permission” from the airport director.

 

If the airport has taken =

Federal funds in the past, = I'm pretty sure that they cannot legally

prevent you from fueling = your own plane.

 

Charlie:=

 

Might be interesting to chat with some expert, but they probably can restrict = the use of 5-gallon containers, and they probably can require written permission = for the airport director.=A0 It’s probably time to carry out my 2-year = old plan of a 50-70 gal transfer tank with 12v pump in the back of my van. Then = get the written permission.=A0 Just procrastinating on spending the $350 or more = that it would take. I’m thinking of checking the local truck salvage for a = saddle tank about the right size.

 

Why the move to = French Valley? That airport has never felt particularly user friendly the times I've flown = into it. Your comments do nothing to change my opinion.

 

The hangar I was in at Ramona changed ownership, and the new owner wants all = the space for his own toys. =A0There were no others available at Ramona, and = hangars at French Valley are nicer, less expensive, and an easier drive from where I live (although = still too far, 33 mi.).=A0

 

But fly on up and we’ll have lunch at the nice caf=E9 there. Ramona = had no place to eat at the airport. Other then the over-regulation, I’ve = found the actual people around the airport very friendly. =A0There is an RV8 = right next door, another Velocity one = hangar over, and a Lancair across the way. They probably need to do more runway sweeping = though; after my first flight out of there the tip of one of the prop blades was smashed like it had picked up something about =BE” in size and = heavy enough rip up the last inch of the fiberglass on the Catto prop.=A0 = That’s a more likely issue with the prop in back – the nose wheel kicks = something up and it hits the prop.

 

Al

 

 

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