X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.241.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3481430 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:51:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.39; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090207165058.IYEZ131.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:50:58 -0500 Received: from wills ([68.105.85.56]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id D4qv1b00P1CvZmk034qxYi; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:50:57 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_6oiiBZwXfcA:10 a=O2b_Nj2wQtsA:10 a=FHYvRFT3QRcbYKLnx_oA:9 a=_K9PbT3TjvpkpBLrkE4A:7 a=ItCZqtAWc-d2r23wOExkA0uFGwkA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 a=Y2VNeNrzAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=HQ31llbKAAAA:8 a=NUdbq8a8ujh5N8es9xsA:9 a=wvIjp5Sl3jJmqLtT23sA:7 a=pe_zvHHeiFvWUYkiicEWWKDB_JcA:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <003e01c98944$3f74f220$38556944@wills> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:50:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C98901.3107D7E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C98901.3107D7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Al, Why the move to French Valley? That airport has never felt particularly = user friendly the times I've flown into it. Your comments do nothing to = change my opinion. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Man, Jeff; that looks scary to me. Even a minor rear-ender and you've = got 15 gallons of gas splashed all over two vehicles, and possible = friction sparks to set it off. Maybe best you put up with some fumes, = and let the bumper do its job. I don't know about where you live; but here in SoCal I expect the cops = would find half a dozen violations with that setup. I recently moved my plane to F70, which is in Riverside County; and = was surprised to find in the regulations attached to the hangar lease = that NO person is allowed to fuel a plane ANYWHERE on the airport from = 5-gallon containers; and No person is allowed to fuel any airplane = without written permission from the airport director. Not mention that = nNO person shall EVER fuel a plane in a hangar. NO volatiles of any = kind, including lubricants and paint, can be kept in the hangar. So = ordained by the County Board of Supervisors. How's that for extreme - = or should I say absurd. And you have to name the county as additional = insured for any damage or liability relating to the use of the hangar. = These are simple all-metal T-hangars. I've been fueling from 5-gallon containers, in the hangar, for the = past two years at my previous location. And I did it again today when = no-one was looking - don't tell anyone. Al G -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:45 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners I got tired of smelling and afraid of carrying gas behind the back = seat of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier out of 1 1/4" pipe = and an ATV basket . it's not bullet-proof, but if an accident occurs the = gas is better off outside the vehicle than inside. Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C98901.3107D7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Al,
 
 Why the move to French Valley? = That airport=20 has never felt particularly user friendly the times I've flown into it. = Your=20 comments do nothing to change my opinion.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 = 9:27=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas = Tote for=20 Auto Fuel burners

Man, = Jeff; that=20 looks scary to me.  Even a minor rear-ender and you=92ve got 15 = gallons of=20 gas splashed all over two vehicles, and possible friction sparks to = set it=20 off.  Maybe best you put up with some fumes, and let the bumper = do its=20 job.

 

I don=92t = know about=20 where you live; but here in SoCal I expect the cops would find half a = dozen=20 violations with that setup.

 

I = recently moved my=20 plane to F70, which is in Riverside=20 County; and=20 was surprised to find in the regulations attached to the hangar lease = that NO=20 person is allowed to fuel a plane ANYWHERE on the airport from = 5-gallon=20 containers; and No person is allowed to fuel any airplane without = written=20 permission from the airport director.  Not mention that nNO = person shall=20 EVER fuel a plane in a hangar. NO volatiles of any kind, including = lubricants=20 and paint, can be kept in the hangar. So ordained by the = County=20 Board of=20 Supervisors.    How=92s that for extreme =96 or should = I say=20 absurd. And you have to name the county as additional insured for any = damage=20 or liability relating to the use of the hangar.  These are simple = all-metal T-hangars.

 

I=92ve = been fueling=20 from 5-gallon containers, in the hangar, for the past two years at my = previous=20 location. And I did it again today when no-one was looking =96 don=92t = tell=20 anyone.

 

Al=20 G

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff = Whaley
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 = 12:45=20 PM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners

 

I got tired of smelling and afraid of = carrying gas=20 behind the back seat of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier = out of=20  1 1/4=94 pipe and an ATV basket =85 it=92s not bullet-proof, but = if an=20 accident occurs the gas is better off outside the vehicle than=20 inside.

Jeff

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