X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.241.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3480932 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:28:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.39; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090207052723.FSER131.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 00:27:23 -0500 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.137.74]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id CtTP1b0021cVYgg04tTPuy; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:27:23 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rEwPKeCfv9MA:10 a=w9zxwq_FIPYA:10 a=EgPN6ZjBYTZ_FL7RwxAA:9 a=EB96-Ndh1_241pNG8jwA:7 a=KbE0NBMBY8dx6SksIT40oOT3ifsA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 a=Y2VNeNrzAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=HQ31llbKAAAA:8 a=0X0pNrRvMXkCOo7BPIkA:7 a=iGJf-8Lhq3AaJCmvY-sFLDWLa4IA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:27:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C988A1.BC28EA40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C988A1.BC28EA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Man, Jeff; that looks scary to me. Even a minor rear-ender and you've = got 15 gallons of gas splashed all over two vehicles, and possible friction sparks to set it off. Maybe best you put up with some fumes, and let = the bumper do its job. =20 I don't know about where you live; but here in SoCal I expect the cops = would find half a dozen violations with that setup. =20 I recently moved my plane to F70, which is in Riverside County; and was surprised to find in the regulations attached to the hangar lease that = NO person is allowed to fuel a plane ANYWHERE on the airport from 5-gallon containers; and No person is allowed to fuel any airplane without = written permission from the airport director. Not mention that nNO person shall EVER fuel a plane in a hangar. NO volatiles of any kind, including lubricants and paint, can be kept in the hangar. So ordained by the = County Board of Supervisors. How's that for extreme - or should I say = absurd. And you have to name the county as additional insured for any damage or liability relating to the use of the hangar. These are simple all-metal T-hangars. =20 I've been fueling from 5-gallon containers, in the hangar, for the past = two years at my previous location. And I did it again today when no-one was looking - don't tell anyone. =20 Al G =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:45 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners =20 I got tired of smelling and afraid of carrying gas behind the back seat = of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier out of 1 1/4" pipe and an = ATV basket . it's not bullet-proof, but if an accident occurs the gas is = better off outside the vehicle than inside. Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C988A1.BC28EA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Man, Jeff; that looks scary to = me. Even a minor rear-ender and you’ve got 15 gallons of gas splashed all = over two vehicles, and possible friction sparks to set it off. Maybe best = you put up with some fumes, and let the bumper do its job.

I don’t know about where = you live; but here in SoCal I expect the cops would find half a dozen violations = with that setup.

I recently moved my plane to F70, = which is in Riverside County; and was surprised to find in the regulations attached to the hangar lease that = NO person is allowed to fuel a plane ANYWHERE on the airport from 5-gallon containers; and No person is allowed to fuel any airplane without = written permission from the airport director. Not mention that nNO person = shall EVER fuel a plane in a hangar. NO volatiles of any kind, including = lubricants and paint, can be kept in the hangar. So ordained by the = County Board of Supervisors. How’s that for extreme – or = should I say absurd. And you have to name the county as additional insured for = any damage or liability relating to the use of the hangar. These are = simple all-metal T-hangars.

I’ve been fueling from = 5-gallon containers, in the hangar, for the past two years at my previous = location. And I did it again today when no-one was looking – don’t tell = anyone.

Al G

-----Original = Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Friday, February = 06, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Gas = Tote for Auto Fuel burners

I got tired of smelling and afraid of = carrying gas behind the back seat of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier out = of 1 1/4” pipe and an ATV basket … it’s not bullet-proof, = but if an accident occurs the gas is better off outside the vehicle than = inside.

Jeff

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