X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTPS id 3413224 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:59:45 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,340,1228118400"; d="scan'208";a="108818373" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2009 09:59:08 -0800 Received: from [10.62.16.115] (ernestc-thinkcenter-kubuntu64.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.115]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id n06Hx7b8017053 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:59:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49639BEB.5000800@nc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:59:07 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Muffler design (was 20B isssues . . ) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tracy Crook wrote: > Interesting stuff Ernest, Hope this turns up some good results. > > I haven't had time to really go into muffler theory so I've just > observed what the car & motorcycle makers do. Based on these > observations only, I've concluded that unless we come up with a new > concept, there is no substitute for size and cubic inches. The phononic devices ARE a new concept. Most of the data I've been able to find has been abstracts of peer-review research publications. The three links I provided earlier are the only publicly available data I've turned up. Even still, conceptually it's a fairly simple construct. The devilish part, as Bill alluded to, is that it has to be tuned. The papers I've read lead me to believe that I have some idea of the magnitude of the dimensions necessary, and I've sketched out a way to run a lot of tests of different configurations easily. Nothin' left to do but the doin'. 8*)