X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.232] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3413088 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:47:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.232; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so9868792rvb.7 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:47:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FBztW1xV0rVdlLxrMDOg+A3ysQbrQFEbeKmGtrmUQFg=; b=c0AsBgAr70vjdASS2Jqh4Hbjr4TF9dTLU++6MNJy0yt81c4ZO1z7sZYQl6v3Cs9CR0 3QTSjntwt8VOSv9Me1d3ofLWU5QYGBQLJJ/2IkGK9G2qY6Vsf2BE2UvhWzNtWL4iNnhI Y1V3PWiDKKOhi1LgKqmJaq5hqJTSNBKdt0jmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=VHbAbe2OE5zDtRDhtKLy7TqRot24s3meIDqnOx7DjPW3C+oZeAu5MrAWJN7Cvv9ueV R5FFfGibAF8BmKtz4XJs4yih5p3EAQeWCj+a1W+5b+KM8SA4if+0fxS3WTyMJ8HMZfo/ QvFVK82mlcgkLorm/xEryUtji7WRVlznK9GwE= Received: by 10.140.165.21 with SMTP id n21mr11006086rve.240.1231260423354; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.166.4 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:47:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5cf132c0901060847n34ac297s59fedb3a665bf169@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:47:03 -0600 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral muffler. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_128472_28475918.1231260423343" References: ------=_Part_128472_28475918.1231260423343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Lynn, Regarding your statement, "muffler design is serious business". I couldn't agree more. I was amazed when, on my first "spiral-flow" muffler, I found that the 1/4" bolt that was at the tip of my exhaust downpipe was melted from the heat of the rotary's exhaust... 3' from the exhaust ports. Also, the material around the bolt holes started cracking from the hammering of the supersonic exhaust pulses. It's enough to make one stop and think. Mark S. On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > Yes Lynn it is a different system than they were using on the Arrow. > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn Hanover > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 5:19 pm > Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral muffler. > > Mark, > Take a look at the newest Mistral pictures. They are using a tangental with > a "cool tube" something that I drew several years ago for PL's site. They > use a large down pipe with a annular exit around the tube. If you are doing > something new it is worth a look. Material is 321 I think. > Bill Jepson > > Hopefully it is an improvement on the last years model made by a third > party, that decomposed and blocked the outlet, bringing the test plane down. > > Muffler design is very serious business. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > ------------------------------ > Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now. > > ------=_Part_128472_28475918.1231260423343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Lynn,
 
Regarding your statement, "muffler design is serious business".  I couldn't agree more.  I was amazed when, on my first "spiral-flow" muffler, I found that the 1/4" bolt that was at the tip of my exhaust downpipe was melted from the heat of the rotary's exhaust... 3' from the exhaust ports.  Also, the material around the bolt holes started cracking from the hammering of the supersonic exhaust pulses.  It's enough to make one stop and think.
Mark S.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:31 AM, <wrjjrs@aol.com> wrote:
Yes Lynn it is a different system than they were using on the Arrow.
Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Hanover <lehanover@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 5:19 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral muffler.

Mark,
Take a look at the newest Mistral pictures. They are using a tangental with a "cool tube" something that I drew several years ago for PL's site. They use a large down pipe with a annular exit around the tube. If you are doing something new it is worth a look. Material is 321 I think.
Bill Jepson
 
Hopefully it is an improvement on the last years model made by a third party, that decomposed and blocked the outlet, bringing the test plane down.
 
Muffler design is very serious business.
 
Lynn E. Hanover 


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