Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #4456
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:51:14 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
 1:24 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator

Subject: [FlyRotary] radiator

 

Hi, fellow rotary enthusiasts.....I'm getting ready to order a radiator for my 13b powered SQ2000 canard pusher.  I talked to Al Wick, and he has a 160 hp Subaru powered Cozy and is cooling it very well with a radiator that is 17" x 7.25" x 3" deep.  Any idea if that size might also cool a rotary? 

 

 

We all know that the cooling system is the most frequent problem area in custom engine installations.  One reason is that too often it is done on the basis of ‘what worked for Joe Blow should work for me’.  It’s not that I argue with what works; it’s just that configurations are very different, and the applications (air speeds) are different.  Ducting and air flow are probably the most variable.  Right off hand, Paul, I’d guess that a 17” x 7.25” x 3” would work for roughly a continuous 100 hp climb on a 90 degree day.

    SNIP

 There is plenty of data from the racing world that suggests that a rad thickness of about 2.5” may be optimum; 3 will be fine.  The rad area times thickness gives you volume.

 

Somewhere around 2.5 – 3.0 cu. in./hp will be fine for cruise.  But for that climbout on a hot day, you’re going to need more; probably around 4. 

 

And don’t forget; to keep the drag down you’d like to liberate that cooling air back into the free stream at something like free stream velocity.  So some of that static pressure you recovered in the inlet duct can be used to accelerate the air in the outlet.  Outlet area should be on the order of 1.5 times inlet area, and try to let the air out in a low pressure area.

 

So that ought to get you into the ballpark, and if you do things right it will work just fine.  You can do some tuning after you get the thing flying.

 

Al

 

 I agree with Al's assessment.  Given his quoted rule of thumb of 4 cu in/hp and a 160HP (nominal) on take off and climbout would indicate that 4*160 = 640 cu in would be about right  Which just happens to be the core volume of two evaporator cores.
 
The size could probably be reduce given only cruise considerations, but then we are need to take off and climb out first. My recent experiment of reducing one of my radiators inlet ducts from 24 sq inc to 9 sq in (but taking considerable effort to smooth the airflow from inlet to radiator surface) resulted in a 31% overall reduction in inlet area from a total of 48 sq in for my two radiators to 33 sq inch and only saw the coolant temp go up 5F indicates to me how significant getting good duct flow performance is to overall cooling (see attached photo for comparison of before/after on the inlets). 
 
So even if you don't have the space to implement the K&W ideal duct profile, I am convinced that paying attention to eliminating eddy producing pockets by smoothing the airflow path has potential big payoff.
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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