Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2751974 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:27:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 10093 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2003 21:27:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frontiernet.net) ([170.215.97.8]) (envelope-sender ) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.6) with SMTP for ; 19 Nov 2003 21:27:19 -0000 Message-ID: <3FBBE054.B4CC14F8@frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:27:48 -0600 From: Jim Sower X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator size References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't the conventional wisdom 3 cuin/hp? Al Wick's Subaru is about 2.5 but his Soob doesn't have the cooling requirements of a rotary and I believe he has a really nice (efficient - good recovery) plenum. I would think 3 minimum unless you have really good ducting and plenum. Just a theory ... Jim S. Joseph Berki wrote: > I would like to know what the optimum volume is. It is interesting to note > that Tracy is using two cores and had a duct problem with one and had > sufficient cooling. See cooling test at his web site. I think he changed > the inlet and improved the cooling. The type of AC fast vs slow is > important (high power at low speed) like climb out . If we optimize the > inlet how small could the rad be? I think a pusher would be a perfect bed > for a long duct. Worse case would be ground cooling. > > At 11:01 AM 11/19/2003 -0600, David Carter wrote: > >408 cubic inches is short of the 600 to 750 that are being used > >successfully. I posted my a/c core sizes yesterday - 336.65 cubic inches of > >fin area X 2 = 673 cub inches - that will be enough. > > > >David Carter > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "sqpilot@earthlink" > >To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:55 AM > >Subject: [FlyRotary] radiator > > > > > >Hi, fellow rotary enthusiasts.....I'm getting ready to order a radiator for > >my 13b powered SQ2000 canard pusher. I talked to Al Wick, and he has a 160 > >hp Subaru powered Cozy and is cooling it very well with a radiator that is > >17" x 7.25" x 3" deep. Any idea if that size might also cool a rotary? How > >does that seem to compare with two GM evaporator cores? I was told that if > >I can increase the height to 8 inches instead of 7.25, they can put two fans > >on it, as well as the built-in Meziere EWP. I can work with the additional > >height of 8 inches. Just don't want to spend $1100.00 for too small a > >radiator. If 17x8x3 equates to approximately the same size as two evaporator > >cores like Ed Anderson is using, I should be OK. If anyone can compare the > >square inches of the two, I would sure appreciate it. Thanks in advance for > >any and all efforts and recommendations. Paul Conner > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Jim Sower Crossville, TN; Chapter 5 Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T