X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-Junk-Score: 10 [X] X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2931161 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 May 2008 18:54:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.48; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TyHH1Z01q0cQ2SLA501T00; Tue, 20 May 2008 22:53:58 +0000 Received: from ChristopherNB ([98.200.107.125]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tytv1Z00B2iMkLq8W00000; Tue, 20 May 2008 22:53:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MOyMPmDJj8QA:10 a=VVAh4RG4Ar4A:10 a=JdRn4MNPSzs3LWh94Z4A:9 a=bNj75zhAO9OAcdXg3tgA:7 a=n5SLesqcxYO9jlm-tCaAWkbaqdcA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=Qv-eji4pLI_7U27Wy7EA:9 a=6WY0pE2UEzqMAQ6p8g8A:7 a=8hZYcr8p4yFa_xTA2xoCIPxTR98A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <1FFC7F3D02824E358E1AE14D3935D4E6@ChristopherNB> From: "Christopher Barber" To: "COZY Mailing List" , "FlyRotary aircraft" , "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" Subject: Site gage tube tore like wet cardboard, YIKES Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:53:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_101B_01C8BAA2.78D51D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_101B_01C8BAA2.78D51D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This may be one of these "known issues" that I was just clueless about, = but a couple of weeks ago I arrived at the hangar to the strong smell of = fuel in the air. Uh oh. I went to the plane and found about a 1/4 inch = of fuel in the fuselage. What gives? I had just removed the old engine = (13b) to build a new one when I found coolant in the rotor housings. I = thought that perhaps moving the fuel lines around behind the firewall = may have allowed fuel to flow in a wired way and it drained into the = cabin.....not sure, but first things first, lets clean the fuel = up......anyone got a cigarette???? After all was clean and no more fuel was leaking I put the issue on the = back burner to think about it and to check all the lines. I am waiting = for the PSRU to come back from Tracy so I am doing some major "clean up" = of "proof of concept" wire runs etc.=20 As I was re-running the wire that goes to the strake (Velocity SE) fuel = sender I had to move the wire around the "clear" tubing that is used as = a site gage in the strake luggage area. To my shock the tubing ripped = with just a slight touch. In my dismay I pressed it with my fingernail = and my nail cut clean through it. I looked and found a crack on the = pilot side tubing. Hmmmmmm, since I checked all my aluminum connections = inside the cabin and all were secure and, the sump was still full of = fuel I am guessin' I found my fuel leak. Is this common? What did I do wrong? My first thought is this clear = tubing is NOT compatible with auto gas. I have been fuel with local auto = gas from the local station. I don't remember but it MAY have some = ethanol included. I do not have much concerns there is issue with the = tanks themselves as they were coated with Jeffco way back when. What tubing would y'all recommend for this use, that is clear AND not = subject to deteriorating? Really, it tore like wet cardboard. I must = have completely missed earlier discussion on this problem. But, alas, = would much rather find it now. I got some regular black fuel lines to = use until I find a solution so I can continue my engine development as = my PSRU arrived back today. Thanks all. All the best, Chris Houston Velocity SE/FG w/ rotary 13b ------=_NextPart_000_101B_01C8BAA2.78D51D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This may be one of these "known issues" = that I was=20 just clueless about, but a couple of weeks ago I arrived at the hangar = to the=20 strong smell of fuel in the air.  Uh oh.  I went to the plane = and=20 found about a 1/4 inch of fuel in the fuselage.  What gives?  = I had=20 just removed the old engine (13b) to build a new one when I found = coolant in the=20 rotor housings.  I thought that perhaps moving the fuel lines = around behind=20 the firewall may have allowed fuel to flow in a wired way and it drained = into=20 the cabin.....not sure, but first things first, lets clean the fuel=20 up......anyone got a cigarette???? <g>
 
After all was clean  and no more = fuel was=20 leaking I put the issue on the back burner to think about it and to = check all=20 the lines.  I am waiting for the PSRU to come back from Tracy so I = am doing=20 some major "clean up" of "proof of concept" wire runs = etc. 
 
As I was re-running the wire that goes = to the=20 strake (Velocity SE) fuel sender I had to move the wire around the = "clear"=20 tubing that is used as a site gage in the strake luggage area.  To = my shock=20 the tubing ripped with just a slight touch.  In my dismay I pressed = it with=20 my fingernail and my nail cut clean through it.  I looked and found = a crack=20 on the pilot side tubing.  Hmmmmmm, since I checked all my aluminum = connections inside the cabin and all were secure and, the sump was still = full of=20 fuel I am guessin' I found my fuel leak.
 
Is this common?  What did I do = wrong?  My=20 first thought is this clear tubing is NOT compatible with auto gas. I = have been=20 fuel with local auto gas from the local station.  I don't remember = but it=20 MAY have some ethanol included.  I do not have much concerns there = is issue=20 with the tanks themselves as they were coated with Jeffco way back=20 when.
 
What tubing would y'all recommend for = this use,=20 that is clear AND not subject to deteriorating?  Really, it tore = like wet=20 cardboard.  I must have completely missed earlier discussion on = this=20 problem.  But, alas, would much rather find it now.  I got = some=20 regular black fuel lines to use until I find a solution so I can = continue my=20 engine development as my PSRU arrived back today.
 
Thanks all.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
Houston
 
Velocity SE/FG w/ rotary=20 13b
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