X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.188] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPS id 2912718 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 May 2008 18:19:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.188; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d220-236-69-50.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.236.69.50]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m47MIRGd021021 for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 08:18:29 +1000 Message-ID: <008801c8b090$4950cb30$6400a8c0@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Need ideas for bolts Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:18:25 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0657-0, 12/12/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Ernest, Just as a comparison, I got a quote for high tensile, roll formed threads for the single rotor for $12 each, especially made up to length. I think someone is having a lend of you. Isn't that Tracy's rig, perhaps you can get bolts from him the right length. George ( down under) >I thought this would be easy. It's not. I'm trying to come up with a >better idea now. > > Problem: The gearbox I have bolts up to a 1/2" plate. There are 6" > standoffs between the plate and the rear face of the engine. Two of the > standoffs are drilled to encompass a single bolt, and the other two are > wide enough to contain 2 bolts each. We planned to use bolts through all > the pieces into the back of the engine. The bolts would need to be 180mm > long M10 with a 1.00mm thread pitch. Because it will be holding the prop, > I consider it prudent to specify 10.9 grade bolts (equivalent to Class8). > Wilders, the local bolt specialty shop, gives me a quote of $36 each. I'd > need 6 of them. I could get a box of 10 at $30.67 each. Ouch!! > > I could do that, crying the whole time, and may possibly have to yet; > but, I think it might be smarter to explore other options first (and ask > people smarter than I). I'm thinking the best way to go would be to find > a way to use standard length bolts. For instance, for the two standoffs > that have two holes, we could cut a recess into each side to uncover the > drilled hole. That would allow one bolt to attach the standoff to the > engine and another to attach the plate. But that would severely > compromise the clamp-up forces that hold the whole thing together and > allow it to get "wobbly". Threaded rod or studs are possibilities, but > I've not been able to find either. > > Where can I find extra long, high grade metric bolts that aren't specialty > order items? > What other options do I have for securely bolting a plate to the back of > the engine with 6" spacer? > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.9/1416 - Release > Date: 5/05/2008 5:11 PM >