X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2893555 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 04 May 2008 22:08:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080505020742.QLQ22929.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Mon, 5 May 2008 02:07:42 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c8ae54$d3976760$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis First Start Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:07:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8AE33.4C40A810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8AE33.4C40A810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, thanks, Bobby. I didn't phrase my question well, you provided the answer - 550 = cc/minute. Thanks. The reason I asked is on the RX-8 car (at least the = 4 port intake Renesis I think) is that I believe the primary injectors = are 250 cc/min and the secondary are 550 cc/minute. But, I believe = Tracy recommends going with four 550 cc/min injectors. Going to have to get a shop manual on the Renesis. Nah! I'll wait and = get the shop manual for the 16B {:>) Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bobby J. Hughes=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis First Start Ed, I have no idea on the flow rates. I did not initially order a EM2 but = I am in line for one now. The Advanced EFIS \ engine monitor has a water = cooled option but it is configured for the Egg Subi's. So no EGT's at = this point either. I plan to monitor the EGT's, coolant pressure and oil = pan temps with the EM2. All my injectors are 540cc. Once I get the = injector rpm converter working I will install the prop and attempt to = tune with my wideband O2. I guess I should ask Tracy how he set the = injectors up. I think we talked about it when he did the snubber update = last year.=20 Bobby -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:20 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis First Start Great going, Bobby! Always a thrill the first, second, third = .........nth, time the engine fires up - but, the first is the most = memorable. Quick question - what are the flow rates on your primary and = secondary injectors - are they the same?? Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bobby J. Hughes=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Renesis First Start Saturday with the help of Mark Steitle I was able to start my = renesis. Had to run higher rpm's to keep to it running. Wideband O2 = showed lean at lower rpm's. Today after adjusting the fuel pressure to = 42 psi (was 30 psi) I was able to idle much lower. My Advanced Flight = System EFIS\ engine monitor fuel injector circuit is not putting out a = tach signal so no idea on the actual rpm's. Two primer clicks and it = starts right up. =20 Bobby J Hughes ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8AE33.4C40A810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, thanks, Bobby.
 
I didn't phrase my question well, you = provided=20 the answer - 550 cc/minute.  Thanks.  The reason I asked is on = the=20 RX-8 car (at least the 4 port intake Renesis I think) is that I = believe the=20 primary injectors are 250 cc/min and the secondary are 550 = cc/minute.  But,=20 I believe Tracy recommends going with four 550 cc/min = injectors.
 
Going to have to get a shop manual on = the=20 Renesis.  Nah! I'll wait and get the shop manual for the 16B=20 {:>)
 
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp://www.andersonee.com
http:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bobby J. = Hughes=20
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 = 10:44 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Renesis First=20 Start

Ed,
 
I have no idea on the flow rates. I did not = initially=20 order a EM2 but I am in line for one now. The Advanced EFIS \ engine = monitor=20 has a water cooled option but it is configured for the = Egg=20 Subi's. So no EGT's at this point either. I plan to monitor the EGT's, = coolant=20 pressure and oil pan temps with the EM2. All my injectors are 540cc. = Once I=20 get the injector rpm converter working I will install the prop and = attempt to=20 tune with my wideband O2. I guess I should ask Tracy how he set the = injectors=20 up. I think we talked about it when he did the snubber update = last year.=20
 
Bobby

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:20 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis First=20 Start

Great going, Bobby!  Always a = thrill the=20 first, second, third .........nth,  time the engine fires up - = but, the=20 first is the most memorable.  Quick question - what are the flow = rates on=20 your primary and secondary injectors - are they the = same??
 
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp://www.andersonee.com
http:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bobby = J. Hughes=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 = 8:50=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Renesis = First=20 Start

Saturday with=20 the help of Mark Steitle I was able to start my renesis. Had = to run=20 higher rpm's to keep to it running. Wideband O2 showed lean at = lower=20 rpm's.  Today after adjusting the fuel pressure to 42 psi (was = 30 psi)=20 I was able to idle much lower. My Advanced Flight System EFIS\ = engine=20 monitor fuel injector circuit is not putting out a tach signal = so no=20 idea on the actual rpm's. Two primer clicks and it starts right = up. =20
 
Bobby J=20 Hughes
 
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